(PROJECT) A Gathering Place For Tulsa

[AquaMan]

Cute. Love the 918 or move back to the cornfields!

Sauer, Omaha and Oklahoma didn't collude with each other. It is a federal regulation. Why is it so hard to believe that people in wheelchairs may not be visiting the local park to run? The paths are access to picnic areas, a restaurant, a place for their children to play etc. Your world is so small.....

[Hoss]

Cute. Love the 918 or move back to the cornfields!

Sauer, Omaha and Oklahoma didn't collude with each other. It is a federal regulation. Why is it so hard to believe that people in wheelchairs may not be visiting the local park to run? The paths are access to picnic areas, a restaurant, a place for their children to play etc. Your world is so small.....

If my mom was still alive I'm pretty sure she could beat Cabbage's backside.

[sauerkraut]

Cute. Love the 918 or move back to the cornfields!

Sauer, Omaha and Oklahoma didn't collude with each other. It is a federal regulation. Why is it so hard to believe that people in wheelchairs may not be visiting the local park to run? The paths are access to picnic areas, a restaurant, a place for their children to play etc. Your world is so small.....

As I said before, I understand everyone wants to use the jogging trails, but if your using the trails and your handicapped it makes no sense -at least to me- that you need to park up front next to the trail, if your using the trail parking 30 feet away won't make a hill of beans difference, when your on the trail you'll be walking or using a wheel chair for a great distance anyhow, how up front parking will help anyone is beyond me, there is also a huge problem with handicapped parking abuse, other healthy  people using grandmas car with the handicapped card  so they can park up close in shopping malls and so on but that's another issue.. I have no problems with playgrounds either- it's just that how many more  playgrounds do we really need? There already is a playground at 41st & RiverSide Drive, now they want to build a super playground a mile north of that. There is a playground at 101st & Riverside Drive too.  I'd like to see places for teens, young adults and older adults to go to. I'd like to see something where all ages can go. The Gathering Place seems to focus on just a big Playground more than anything else or any other activity- at least from what I read about it and what was displayed about it on TV, it's basically a place for kids.

[TheArtist]

As I said before, I understand everyone wants to use the jogging trails, but if your using the trails and your handicapped it makes no sense -at least to me- that you need to park up front next to the trail, if your using the trail parking 30 feet away won't make a hill of beans difference, when your on the trail you'll be walking or using a wheel chair for a great distance anyhow, how up front parking will help anyone is beyond me, there is also a huge problem with handicapped parking abuse, other healthy  people using grandmas car with the handicapped card  so they can park up close in shopping malls and so on but that's another issue.. I have no problems with playgrounds either- it's just that how many more  playgrounds do we really need? There already is a playground at 41st & RiverSide Drive, now they want to build a super playground a mile north of that. There is a playground at 101st & Riverside Drive too.  I'd like to see places for teens, young adults and older adults to go to. I'd like to see something where all ages can go. The Gathering Place seems to focus on just a big Playground more than anything else or any other activity- at least from what I read about it and what was displayed about it on TV, it's basically a place for kids.

I don't go to any of the other playgrounds, but I will go to this park.  Looks like it is going to be a great place to take a stroll or rollerblade with lots to see. :-)

[BuiltRight]

Video about what's currently going on behind the big green wall.

http://www.kjrh.com/news/local-news/behind-the-scenes-look-at-construction-work-for-a-gathering-place

[carltonplace]

Riverside drive is now closed. You have been forewarned for two years that this would happen.

Queue pointless ranting

[Hoss]

Riverside drive is now closed. You have been forewarned for two years that this would happen.

Queue pointless ranting

Yep, much like the change in refuse service...I still hear people bitching about that.  Three years after the fact.

[Conan71]

Riverside drive is now closed. You have been forewarned for two years that this would happen.

Queue pointless ranting

Yeah, but once it's done, there won't be anything there for people to do, parking's gonna be a nightmare, and we won't have money to maintain it.  I dunno about how this might affect Tulsa Tuff, but I'm not a cyclist, I'm just a runner.  Just not what I think T-Towne needs.  I think we just need mile markers on the trail so I don't have to use one of those new-fangled computers.

[Hoss]

Yeah, but once it's done, there won't be anything there for people to do, parking's gonna be a nightmare, and we won't have money to maintain it.  I dunno about how this might affect Tulsa Tuff, but I'm not a cyclist, I'm just a runner.  Just not what I think T-Towne needs.  I think we just need mile markers on the trail so I don't have to use one of those new-fangled computers.

**snort**  Good thing I was not drinking anything.

[rebound]

Yeah, but once it's done, there won't be anything there for people to do, parking's gonna be a nightmare, and we won't have money to maintain it.  I dunno about how this might affect Tulsa Tuff, but I'm not a cyclist, I'm just a runner.  Just not what I think T-Towne needs.  I think we just need mile markers on the trail so I don't have to use one of those new-fangled computers.

+2,  just for the double-take...

[sauerkraut]

RiverSide Drive is closed for two years, the jogging trail is closed too, it'll be a mess and a long two years. IMO I think this project is a mistake, it's just  too big, they bit off more than they could chew. There is also on going construction going on at the west park too. I think the $350 million could have been spent in better ways or spread out. But that's just me and my opinion.

[Breadburner]

The BOK Center sucks and is going to be a failure.....!!!!!!!!!

[swake]

The BOK Center sucks and is going to be a failure.....!!!!!!!!!

It would be fun to get Michael Bates on here to debate the arena and ballpark.

[cannon_fodder]

RiverSide Drive is closed for two years, the jogging trail is closed too, it'll be a mess and a long two years. IMO I think this project is a mistake, it's just  too big, they bit off more than they could chew. There is also on going construction going on at the west park too. I think the $350 million could have been spent in better ways or spread out. But that's just me and my opinion.

Construction of anything takes time. Double so when it involves significant earth moving, infrastructure, and landscaping. There is just no getting around that.

Explain "too big...they bit off more than they could chew." The contractors in this project bit off exactly as much as they could chew, or would assign more resources. Thus far, everything is going perfectly to plan. Your statement would make sense if things werent going to plan, but since they are - I'm just confused.

If this was a 100% publicly funded project, I would agree with you that a $350mil park probably isn't the best investment. But it isn't.

I use the trails on a very regular basis. I drive on the part of the road that is closed. I don't live close enough to walk when the new park is open. But I'm damn glad we are getting it.

[Ibanez]

I logged into Facebook for the first time in months last night, big mistake on my part.

There were three things dominating my "news feed" there.

1. Photos of The Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia

2. Photos of William Tecumseh Sherman captioned "Don't make me come down there again."

3. People saying how much they hate that Riverside Drive is closed for "the stupid Gathering Place." With various reasons as to why:

- It is a stupid name for a park anyway
- Nobody will go there because they will chase all the "normal" people away so that only the "uppity" or "rich" can use it.
- Driving in Tulsa is already "the worst" and this just makes it worse....or "worser" as one person said.
- We have too many parks already that nobody uses except for drug dealers
- This is more of an Owasso or Broken Arrow thing. Nobody wants to hang out in downtown Tulsa with all the homeless - This one was my favorite.