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Started by guido911, February 28, 2012, 04:03:48 PM

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Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on March 01, 2012, 05:10:56 PM
So the students are essentially buying insurance. So the only person paying for the birth control would be the woman in question.

If the woman in question is paying the full tab, why does it need to be an insurance benefit?   
 

nathanm

Quote from: Red Arrow on March 01, 2012, 07:35:08 PM
If the woman in question is paying the full tab, why does it need to be an insurance benefit?  

Unless the school is a charity, they're charging students enough to run the health center. If they are, Limbaugh still isn't paying for it and neither are you. Unless you donate to Georgetown University on a regular basis?
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

#77
Quote from: nathanm on March 01, 2012, 07:38:17 PM
Unless the school is a charity, they're charging students enough to run the health center. If they are, Limbaugh still isn't paying for it and neither are you. Unless you donate to Georgetown University on a regular basis?

I didn't say I was paying for Georgetown University students' anything.  I can't speak for Rush.

Is the University charging enough for all the students to get "free" contraceptives and cover the statistics for unexpected illnesses?  If so, then the University is just acting like a pre-paid contraceptive store in addition to a health center.  If the University is counting on statistics and banking that not all students will want continual contraceptives, then
QuoteSo the only person paying for the birth control would be the woman in question.
is not the case, even if all the payers are willing.

The only case I am really trying to make here is that the woman in question is most likely not paying the full cost of her contraceptives.  If the student fees cover the cost, then I don't care.

From the GU Web Site:

The Student Health Center provides high-quality primary health care for the student community. Georgetown University Hospital, which is adjacent to our undergraduate campus, operates the center as a service to students. It is staffed by physicians and nurse practitioners with specific training and experience in the health of college students. Services offered at the center include physical examinations, treatment of common health problems, sports medicine, immunizations and prescription refills. Students requiring emergency care are transported to and treated at the hospital.


The Student Health Insurance Office works with students and families to ensure they have appropriate health insurance coverage while studying at Georgetown.The university requires that most full-time undergraduate and graduate students have health insurance. The office negotiates student health plans with insurance agents and administers and manages student health insurance plans.

http://www.georgetown.edu/campus-life/health-and-wellness/index.html


 

Townsend

#78
Holy moses, it's a bloodbath.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/02/first-on-cnn-boehner-hits-limbaughs-comments-as-inappropriate/?on.cnn=1

Boehner smacks Limbaugh down like a pimp:

Quote"The speaker obviously believes the use of those words was inappropriate, as is trying to raise money off the situation," Michael Steel, Boehner's spokesman, told CNN.


BAM.  My God, how could they even print the violence?

we vs us

Hm.  "Inappropriate."  Strong stuff, that. 

Townsend

Make birth control available to women and then stop taking money away from family services and maybe we can stop reading these stories every day.

Now the money we could've spent on birth control and family planning will go to the jails, courts, and child welfare.  That's good thinking.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=12&articleid=20120302_12_0_Awmnad660792

Oologah pair arrested in child abuse

QuoteA woman and her boyfriend were arrested Tuesday in Rogers County on child abuse complaints, authorities said.

One of three children dropped off at an Oologah daycare Tuesday by Oologah residents Ashley Hamil, 24, and Dustin Craig Jones, 23, had a black eye, the Rogers County Sheriff's Office said.

The girl told employees that she had fallen and hit her eye, but employees noticed bruises on her legs and bottom as she went to the bathroom, the Sheriff's Office said.

Deputies arrested Hamil on complaints of child abuse by injury and permitting child abuse. Jones was arrested on a complaint of child abuse by injury.

Both were released on bond Wednesday.

All three children were taken into Department of Human Services custody, the Sheriff's Office said.



Teatownclown

QuoteWomen roar back at Rush's rhetoric
By Rita Rubin

http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/02/10564407-women-roar-back-at-rushs-rhetoric

Limbaugh's call for the posting of videotapes of women who use birth control went beyond sticks and stones, though, says Kathi Miner, an assistant professor of psychology and women's and gender studies at Texas A&M University, who described the notion as "a form of sexual violence."

^^^^ quite a bit of that violence flowing in Tulsey from reading this thread. :P

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Hard to believe the GOP/Teabaggers fail to condemn this entertainer, philanderer, and ex drug addict Limbaugh but it's just more outlandish moral code that they've failed to stop for over 4 years now. Losers.

Jammie

Quote from: Teatownclown on March 02, 2012, 09:00:38 PM
^^^^ quite a bit of that violence flowing in Tulsey from reading this thread. :P

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Hard to believe the GOP/Teabaggers fail to condemn this entertainer, philanderer, and ex drug addict Limbaugh but it's just more outlandish moral code that they've failed to stop for over 4 years now. Losers.

Rush yells too loud, twists the facts, and judges too much. It was refreshing to see sponsors pull their financial support from him.
It's one thing to have a different view, but it's another thing to be a fanatic and line your pockets by getting people angrier then they already are.

I don't understand anyone discouraging the use of contraceptives. If someone is paying their insurance premium along with their deductible and co-pay, it isn't truly a free ride. Would we rather support the children who are born unexpectedly or look for loving homes for them or deal with even worse situations that result from unexpected pregnancies?
Adopt an older pet. Help them remember what it feels like to be loved.

Hoss

Quote from: Jammie on March 03, 2012, 06:48:59 AM
Rush yells too loud, twists the facts, and judges too much. It was refreshing to see sponsors pull their financial support from him.
It's one thing to have a different view, but it's another thing to be a fanatic and line your pockets by getting people angrier then they already are.

I don't understand anyone discouraging the use of contraceptives. If someone is paying their insurance premium along with their deductible and co-pay, it isn't truly a free ride. Would we rather support the children who are born unexpectedly or look for loving homes for them or deal with even worse situations that result from unexpected pregnancies?

I'll toss out one number, and leave it at that.

7 billion.

Red Arrow

Quote from: Jammie on March 03, 2012, 06:48:59 AM
I don't understand anyone discouraging the use of contraceptives.

I understand it but disagree.  Who pays for it is another subject.
 

Red Arrow

Quote from: Hoss on March 03, 2012, 07:42:09 AM
I'll toss out one number, and leave it at that.

7 billion.

Good number.  It's big (billion) and I like the fact that 7 is a prime number.  13 billion would be another good number.  It's bigger than 7 billion and 13 is another prime number.
 

GG

 http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/03/us-usa-contraception-limbaugh-idUSTRE8220T220120303

Rush Limbaugh apologizes to law student for "insulting" comments

(Reuters) - Conservative talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, facing heavy criticism for branding a law student a "slut" over her remarks on President Barack Obama's new policy on contraception, apologized on Saturday.

The furor prompted Obama to call the Georgetown University student, Sandra Fluke, on Friday to express his support.

"My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir," Limbaugh said in a written statement. "I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices."
Trust but verify

Hoss

Quote from: GG on March 03, 2012, 05:38:21 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/03/us-usa-contraception-limbaugh-idUSTRE8220T220120303

Rush Limbaugh apologizes to law student for "insulting" comments

(Reuters) - Conservative talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, facing heavy criticism for branding a law student a "slut" over her remarks on President Barack Obama's new policy on contraception, apologized on Saturday.

The furor prompted Obama to call the Georgetown University student, Sandra Fluke, on Friday to express his support.

"My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir," Limbaugh said in a written statement. "I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices."

Wow, hell has frozen over...

heironymouspasparagus

Uproar against insurance for contraception reminds me of the uproar about insurance for treatment of autism.

Yet, has no one noticed the complete lack of uproar about insurance for Viagra?  Since before 2000!

Oh, yeah...it's the old white guys making the rules about insurance on contraception and autism who are writing the laws about insurance for Viagra... I almost forgot.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

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TulsaRufnex

Dammit, you beat me to the punch.... I may not be paying for Guido's rubbers, but I have been paying for Bob Dole's Viagra.... for years, at that....

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=91538#.T1P9M_mo-M8

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