Quik-Trip at Utica and 11th

[patric]

Plans for expanding the existing QT at 11th and Utica have been posted:

http://www.tmapc.org/Agenda/03-07-12/PUD-588-A.pdf

Its expected to be much larger (annexing the lot to the north) but Im not certain if this is a Type III from the low-resolution pdf's of the plan.

One good bit of news is that since it's a PUD it includes stricter control over things like lighting (even though I didn't see their required lighting plan in the exhibits). Ill be following that with interest.
Having shielded, low-glare lighting will be a plus for the nearby hospital and rehabilitation center, and vision-challenged customers.

It also sounds like they are going all out for wheelchair accessibility

[nathanm]

It also sounds like they are going all out for wheelchair accessibility

They ought to. There's quite a bit of wheelchair traffic in there as it is.

[Hoss]

Plans for expanding the existing QT at 11th and Utica have been posted:

http://www.tmapc.org/Agenda/03-07-12/PUD-588-A.pdf

Its expected to be much larger (annexing the lot to the north) but Im not certain if this is a Type III from the low-resolution pdf's of the plan.

One good bit of news is that since it's a PUD it includes stricter control over things like lighting (even though I didn't see their required lighting plan in the exhibits). Ill be following that with interest.
Having shielded, low-glare lighting will be a plus for the nearby hospital and rehabilitation center, and vision-challenged customers.

It also sounds like they are going all out for wheelchair accessibility

The two side doors on the plan indicate that it would be a change to the GenIII model.  The expansive side parking also would indicate as such.

[Teatownclown]

Are the plans out on the QT at I44 and Harvard?

[sgrizzle]

I wonder if the large amounts of landscaping are an attempt to appease those who are unhappy with the 10th street closure and fact this doesn't fit the form based codes.

[TheArtist]

  Yea, I honestly don't know what to say.  Its frustrating to see them constantly ignore what so many people have worked so hard to create and how they want their neighborhoods to be like,  like the Brookside Plan (and honestly I haven't seen what appears to me to be any more cars at that gas station than before they ripped out more of Brooksides pedestrian friendly fabric) and now the Pearl Districts plans and even the new city Comprehensive Plan.  Being a gas/car service company, I know they are likely totally against pedestrian friendly/transit friendly design, but its not like there isn't a profusion of places in this city and area that will always be car oriented, and there are so few areas that we are working to have be pedestrian/transit friendly which imo will help everyone in the end by giving us more lifestlye options, make our city more competitive with other cities for jobs and people, more attractive, etc.   

[DowntownDan]

I drive by that area every few days and I saw a yellow zoning change sign, so this makes sense.  I think it's a good thing to see it upgraded.  I doubt it will do much to make it any more attractive a destination at night though.  I can handle a few panhandlers during the day, that doesn't bother me all that much, but the after dark crowd can be frightening at times.

[rdj]

This is a good thing IMO.  That store is so crowded and it looks to be one of the most rundown in their system.  I also like the expanded grocery in this area.  I bet Hillcrest and the other surrounding areas will use the heck of the grocery and prepared foods part of this store.

[nathanm]

This is a good thing IMO.  That store is so crowded and it looks to be one of the most rundown in their system.  I also like the expanded grocery in this area.  I bet Hillcrest and the other surrounding areas will use the heck of the grocery and prepared foods part of this store.

I agree, but it would be nice if they could figure out a way to make it more pedestrian-friendly. There are a lot of pedestrians in the area (for Tulsa, anyway)

[patric]

Quiktrip has been a good corporate citizen but their expansion has not been a positive thing for the urban landscape of midtown Tulsa.

Lighting-wise, they have done fairly well at some locations (like 21st & Memorial), but only because they had to in order to satisfy the PUD.
Using the crappy drop-lens "Scottsdale" lighting at the GenIII at 11th and Sheridan was a step backward.
QT should be designing responsibly by default, and not wait for complaints to rectify bad choices.

[JCnOwasso]

I worked that store about 14 years ago... on nights.  It was the small 1st gen design that are all but extinct.  I am sure that things have changed since then, but that store had a change in shoppers after the sun went down.  I would have rather worked at apache and harvard than 11th and utica. 

[46hudson]

With the Pearl Dstricts zoning ordinances being expanded to the entire district soon, QT made a good decision on their part to expand to a store design they already have the plans for. Had they waited until after the zoning change, QT would have been required to build a 2 story building/store roughly 15 ft ft from the property line. They likely saved themselves a reasonable amount of time and money.

[carltonplace]

With the Pearl Dstricts zoning ordinances being expanded to the entire district soon, QT made a good decision on their part to expand to a store design they already have the plans for. Had they waited until after the zoning change, QT would have been required to build a 2 story building/store roughly 15 ft ft from the property line. They likely saved themselves a reasonable amount of time and money.

Welcome to the forum!
One of the tihings that form based codes advocates is building for the future; creating spaces that can outlive their current use. Its wasteful to create buildings that need to be replaced every 10 years

[AquaMan]

True enough Carlton, but you can understand the hesitance of people in the construction industry to support that premise. They like tearing up, building, tearing up, building. It keeps their business healthy. Kind of like GE making light bulbs that wear out quickly.

[Red Arrow]

Welcome to the forum!
One of the tihings that form based codes advocates is building for the future; creating spaces that can outlive their current use. Its wasteful to create buildings that need to be replaced every 10 years

So, in 10 years they will have to put up a building matching the "new" codes.

I have to agree with Aquaman on the following though:

True enough Carlton, but you can understand the hesitance of people in the construction industry to support that premise. They like tearing up, building, tearing up, building. It keeps their business healthy. Kind of like GE making light bulbs that wear out quickly.