Shooting at the courthouse

[Red Arrow]

I find it's a good idea to be as empathetic as possible.  If not for this guy, for his family or any friends that he might have. 

I would be likely to be empathetic to his friends and family, depending on several factors.  If his family/friends were a bunch of violent criminals, then too bad.  That's the life they chose.  If the family/friends were just people, then yes, they get some sympathy.

[Hoss]

I would be likely to be empathetic to his friends and family, depending on several factors.  If his family/friends were a bunch of violent criminals, then too bad.  That's the life they chose.  If the family/friends were just people, then yes, they get some sympathy.

His brother was shot and killed in a police standoff after being charged with murder in 2003 I believe.

Sent from my Atrix4G with fat fingers

[patric]

So now lets see if all those cameras installed in and around the courthouse were a good investment.

[tulsa_fan]

His brother was shot and killed by TPD Homicide Detectives in 2005, AFTER HE KILLED HIS GRANDFATHER IN OKC

[patric]

NPR local said the bystander was injured by a deputy.

Possibly, given the angle.




Some of the rounds went through the library windows, apparently striking a library patron inside.

[AngieB]

Is the shooter still in critical condition?

[heironymouspasparagus]

Is the shooter still in critical condition?

One can only hope...

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The slide "show" shows the shooter in the process of sitting down on the light pole curbing with his back to the deputy and then seen lying on the plaza deck.  Why?  Is there some scenes missing?

[Hoss]

The slide "show" shows the shooter in the process of sitting down on the light pole curbing with his back to the deputy and then seen lying on the plaza deck.  Why?  Is there some scenes missing?

Hmm...the cameraperson was actually in the building shooting this and not an employee of the World.  Let's not let the black helicopters come into the scene now.

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Hmm...the cameraperson was actually in the building shooting this and not an employee of the World.  Let's not let the black helicopters come into the scene now.

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Do to the fact that a supposed free lance camera person took the slides it would not take a very intelligent attorney to question the pictures and he would not need a black chopper to arrive in.  It is time to check the ballast and see who shot who.   

[Hoss]

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Do to the fact that a supposed free lance camera person took the slides it would not take a very intelligent attorney to question the pictures and he would not need a black chopper to arrive in.  It is time to check the ballast and see who shot who.   

[patric]

The slide "show" shows the shooter in the process of sitting down on the light pole curbing with his back to the deputy and then seen lying on the plaza deck.  Why?  Is there some scenes missing?

You would think that a photo of him actually pointing the revolver at someone would be a photo all the news agencies would use, but it doesn't seem to be out there.  Im sure there are lots more frames than what we have seen, though.
I'd still like to see what the surveillance cameras got.

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Patrick: thanks for posting the picture.  With the way he is dressed it would be hard to conceal gun unless he was exercising open carry.  So many times we jump at conclusions.  It is reported that he had a gun that held five rounds and that was shooting in the air.  Has it been released as if the gun contained any live ammunition at the time he was sitting down?

Was his brother charged for killing their grandfather in OC or was it alleged that he did by the OCPD?   

Just curious because of how this could happen in such a busy place.  Always there is the possibility of a planned suicide.       

[Hoss]

You would think that a photo of him actually pointing the revolver at someone would be a photo all the news agencies would use, but it doesn't seem to be out there.  Im sure there are lots more frames than what we have seen, though.
I'd still like to see what the surveillance cameras got.

Talking with a friend of mine who knows officers involved in the shooting, the guy never really pointed it at anyone was my understanding.  He had it raised in the air firing most of the time, but when he brought it to about a 45 degree angle, the deputies had seen enough at that point.

[ZYX]

The guy that took those pics from the library is saying the gunman only shot in the air, and sat down.  TCSO isnt saying where the rounds that injured the deputy's hand and the bystander came from.

A person firing a gun in any manner, espescially in a public place, should be shot. The threat should be taken out before other questions are asked. There's no telling what he may have done with the gun had he not been shot.