Midland Valley Trail

[we vs us]

As long as we are off topic,  I might as well resign myself to the fact that there are no people unwilling to work around impediments to their success (in anything, not just financial) and that all conditions are due to something being "unfair".

And while I'm at it:  those kids and their devil music!  That Elvis Presley and his satanic hips!  Those lazy kids, listening to jazz all day, reading Kerouac and wearing nothing but black unitards and berets!

Shorter RA:  What's The Matter With Kids These Days! 

[Red Arrow]

You know, it is actually possible that there are some lazy clucks without mental illness and with all the opportunity in the world out there who are destitute only due to their own actions. That, unfortunately, is not the case for most people living in poverty.

Poverty.  Isn't that a town a bit southwest of Altus?

Seriously, you keep jumping right on the poverty thing.  There are other things in life that may be unfair.

I find it highly unlikely that the FAA will allow a blind person to be an airline captain.  That's unfair.   I can't sing (spent the money my mom gave me for singing lessons on flying instead) but what if I wanted to be a Rock & Roll star?  I tried for a little bit to learn to play guitar.  My musical talent consists of playing a stereo and listening to other peoples' music.  I think it's unfair that  I don't have a natural talent for music.   I'm not any good at sports.   That's unfair.  I don't have any talent for making up stories.  I had to go to "creative writing" class in summer school after 5th grade in order to pass.  It's unfair that I cannot make up stories and write a novel.   I am not an artist.  I look at some of the stuff Artist has posted and thought that I would like to have half his artistic talent.  I don't, that's unfair.  

I'm happy as an engineer and have no career goals (not even when I was younger) to be a Rock Star, major league athlete, novelist, or artist.  Some of that stuff would just be nice to be able to do for fun.

Get the idea?

[Red Arrow]

Shorter RA:  What's The Matter With Kids These Days! 

Yep. 

Why can't they be like we were, perfect in every way?  What's the matter with kids today?

[nathanm]

Get the idea?

I understand that you seem to have a very strange conception of what fairness is. If I had your conception of it, I probably wouldn't believe in it either.

[Red Arrow]

I understand that you seem to have a very strange conception of what fairness is. If I had your conception of it, I probably wouldn't believe in it either.

That's only a part of what I believe fairness is and I obviously don't think it's so strange.  I do think it's strange that every time someone mentions fairness, you bring up that poor folk aren't lazy.  It's unfortunate that you have limited your understanding of fairness to the liberal mantra.

[nathanm]

That's only a part of what I believe fairness is and I obviously don't think it's so strange.  I do think it's strange that every time someone mentions fairness, you bring up that poor folk aren't lazy.  It's unfortunate that you have limited your understanding of fairness to the liberal mantra.

It's the most visible manifestation of the fundamental unfairness in the way our economy has been restructured over the past 20-30 years, so of course it's what pops into my mind when you talk about fairness. If you look back, you might even notice that my first response didn't mention poor or lazy.

[Red Arrow]

It's the most visible manifestation of the fundamental unfairness in the way our economy has been restructured over the past 20-30 years, so of course it's what pops into my mind when you talk about fairness. If you look back, you might even notice that my first response didn't mention poor or lazy.

You immediately identified unfairness as a defeatist attitude, followed up with your second reply including "Yes, RA, the poor folk are just lazy".

I'm sure you will condemn me for calling this unfair: I earned a Merit Scholarship in High School by being a good student.  It was for a couple of hundred dollars a year when tuition and room and board in the dorms was about $1000/semester.  I earned that scholarship.  It was taken from me because my dad made a middle management salary.  If the sponsors wanted a scholarship for mediocre students of poor parents, they should have called it that.

I am surprised that you think the economic restructuring including Affirmative Action is unfair.  I would have thought you would like that.

I know you are a progressive income tax guy.  I am a flat tax guy with deductions at the bottom for everyone, which actually makes it progressive but only to allow for a basic cost of living.

Businesses that are owned by minorities and women have advantages over other businesses when dealing with government contractors.  I am surprised you find that unfair.

When I was in college (68-72), minorities were given relaxed entrance standards and put in remedial classes but not as make-up classes.  I am surprised you find that unfair.  I think they should have been required to go to Jr/Community Colleges to make up their deficits in learning like my brother had to do.  Relaxed standards for minorities only diluted the value of my degree.

Edit: typo correction.

An alternative for relaxed standards for minorities at college would have created a two tier value of a diploma.  One for non-minorities and one for all minorities, not just the ones that came in on relaxed standards. 

[AquaMan]

Midland Valley Trail. You guys seem to have taken your personal differences and infused them into a discussion of running trails. Can't we all just agree that OMAHA AND FT WORTH have some great running trails?

[carltonplace]

Midland Valley Trail. You guys seem to have taken your personal differences and infused them into a discussion of running trails. Can't we all just agree that OMAHA AND FT WORTH have some great running trails?

I guess you won't use the term "hoi polloi" on future jogging trail posts.

Look what you have wrought! Look at it!

[AquaMan]

I guess you won't use the term "hoi polloi" on future jogging trail posts.

Look what you have wrought! Look at it!

Ashamed. Ashamed I am.

In reality I thought it was a dish Hawaiians made from tree roots. My bad.

[carltonplace]

Midland Valley Trail is open now and very swanky.

[AquaMan]

I love it. Concrete, smooth, wide and backlit. I have been riding it and running it for a few weeks while dodging machinery and encouraging the workers. Still a little bit of debris scattered around and the marking is incomplete but I road it at 5:30 am one day and it was really, big city cool.

Oh, yeah. No hoi polloi sightings as of yet.

[carltonplace]

I love it. Concrete, smooth, wide and backlit. I have been riding it and running it for a few weeks while dodging machinery and encouraging the workers. Still a little bit of debris scattered around and the marking is incomplete but I road it at 5:30 am one day and it was really, big city cool.

Oh, yeah. No hoi polloi sightings as of yet.

If the crow creek corridor happens I suppose it will have a similar trail? I can't understand why the property owners would balk at that...this Midland trail is very nice and a boon to the neighborhood IMHO.

[AquaMan]

If the crow creek corridor happens I suppose it will have a similar trail? I can't understand why the property owners would balk at that...this Midland trail is very nice and a boon to the neighborhood IMHO.

Maybe when they see the results they will appreciate its value to them. I was skeptical of the support of the entire neighborhood around the gathering place but I haven't heard any complaints and the real estate people are touting it in their listings. Seems like a lot of folks between 31st and 36th, Riverside to Peoria would benefit. Once you go east of Peoria along Crow Creek, you get into some serious money and that could be problematic. I remember the Crow Creek from Peoria is supposed to have a trail along it but not sure if is going farther east?

[carltonplace]

Maybe when they see the results they will appreciate its value to them. I was skeptical of the support of the entire neighborhood around the gathering place but I haven't heard any complaints and the real estate people are touting it in their listings. Seems like a lot of folks between 31st and 36th, Riverside to Peoria would benefit. Once you go east of Peoria along Crow Creek, you get into some serious money and that could be problematic. I remember the Crow Creek from Peoria is supposed to have a trail along it but not sure if is going farther east?

I think Grizz has better deets than I, but my memory is that the trail would connect Peoria Ave to Riverside only.