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Tulsa has passed the one million people mark

Started by swake, April 05, 2012, 09:58:42 AM

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DTowner

Quote from: swake on March 14, 2013, 10:27:55 AM
More interesting, Tulsa's CSA passed one million and now the US Census has expanded the CSA to include Muskogee. The new Tulsa-Muskogee-Bartlesville CSA now has a population 1,122,259.
http://www.census.gov/popest/data/metro/totals/2012/index.html

Jeez, why not just divide the state in two and say everything is in either OKC and Tulsa's CSA.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Townsend on March 14, 2013, 10:39:47 AM
So I do live in North Dallas.

No.  You don't.  They all live in Baja Oklahoma!!
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marc

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Quote from: swake on March 14, 2013, 10:27:55 AM
More interesting, Tulsa's CSA passed one million and now the US Census has expanded the CSA to include Muskogee. The new Tulsa-Muskogee-Bartlesville CSA now has a population 1,122,259.

http://www.census.gov/popest/data/metro/totals/2012/index.html

According to the Census the new Tulsa-Muskogee-Bartlesville, OK Combined Statistic Area encompasses:
Bartlesville, OK Micropolitan Statistical Area
Muskogee, OK Micropolitan Statistical Area
Tahlequah, OK Micropolitan Statistical Area
Tulsa, OK Metropolitan Statistical Area

I assume that means they have added Cherokee County, as well as Muskogee County. But with just the Tulsa Metropolitan and Bartlesville Micropolitan areas the 2012 Tulsa CSA would be 1,003,513. The expansion makes it 1,122,259, as quoted above.

The seven county Tulsa Metro is at 951,880 for 2012, but the link below estimates it at 960,480 as of January 1, 2013, with a projected milestone of 970,000 by January 2014. The Wikipedia entry for the Tulsa Metropolitan Area also uses the 960,480 number as its 2013 estimate. However, the projections reported in bizjournals were made in January 2013, well before the 2012 census estimates came out in March 2013.

http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjournals/on-numbers/scott-thomas/2013/01/portland-leads-parade-of-metros.html?page=all&appSession=035109944859823




 

Oil Capital

The Census Bureau released 2015 metro area population estimates today:

Tulsa metro population as of July 1, 2015:  981,005, increase of 10,898 from 2014.  2014-15 growth rate:  1.123%     2010-2015 growth rate:  4.365%


Other regional cities (in order by 2014-15 growth rate:

Austin:  2015:  2,000,860... increase of 57,395.  2014-15 growth rate:  2.953%.  2010-2015 growth rate:  15.816%

Houston:  2015:  6,656,947.. increase of 159,083.  2014-15 growth rate:  2.45%.  2010-2015 growth rate:  11.914%

San Antonio:  2015:  2,384,075.  increase of 51,285.  2014-15 growth rate:  2.198%.  2010-2015 growth rate:  10.722%

Denver:  2015:  2,814,330... increase of 58,474.  2014-15 growth rate:  2.122%.  2010-2015 growth rate:  10.173%

DFW:  2015:  7,102,796... increase of 144,704.  2014-15 growth rate:  2.08%.  2010-2015 growth rate: 10.076%

Des Moines:  2015:  622,899... increase of 10,743.  2014-15 growth rate:  1.755%.  2010-2015 growth rate:  8.902%

Oklahoma City:  2015:  1,358,452... increase of 20,833.  2014-15 growth rate:  1.557%.   2010-2015 growth rate:  7.989%

Tulsa:  2015:  981,005...  increase of 10,989.  2014-15 growth rate:  1.123%. 2010-2015 growth rate:  4.365%

Omaha:  2015:  915,312.... increase of 10,045. 2014-15 growth rate:  1.11%.  2010-2015 growth rate:  5.43%

Kansas City:  2015:  2,087,471... increase of 16,188.  2014-15 growth rate: 0.782%.  2010-2015 growth rate:  3.663%

Wichita:  2015:  644,610.. increase of 3,130.  2014-15 growth rate:  0.488%.  2010-2015 growth rate:  2.010%

Little Rock:  2015:  731,612.. increase of 2,652.  2014-15 growth rate:  0.364%.  2010-2015 growth rate: 4.157%










 

Conan71

Quote from: Oil Capital on March 24, 2016, 12:38:13 PM
The Census Bureau released 2015 metro area population estimates today:

Tulsa metro population as of July 1, 2015:  981,005, increase of 10,898 from 2014.  2014-15 growth rate:  1.123%     2010-2015 growth rate:  4.365%


Other regional cities (in order by 2014-15 growth rate:

Austin:  2015:  2,000,860... increase of 57,395.  2014-15 growth rate:  2.953%.  2010-2015 growth rate:  15.816%

Houston:  2015:  6,656,947.. increase of 159,083.  2014-15 growth rate:  2.45%.  2010-2015 growth rate:  11.914%

San Antonio:  2015:  2,384,075.  increase of 51,285.  2014-15 growth rate:  2.198%.  2010-2015 growth rate:  10.722%

Denver:  2015:  2,814,330... increase of 58,474.  2014-15 growth rate:  2.122%.  2010-2015 growth rate:  10.173%

DFW:  2015:  7,102,796... increase of 144,704.  2014-15 growth rate:  2.08%.  2010-2015 growth rate: 10.076%

Des Moines:  2015:  622,899... increase of 10,743.  2014-15 growth rate:  1.755%.  2010-2015 growth rate:  8.902%

Oklahoma City:  2015:  1,358,452... increase of 20,833.  2014-15 growth rate:  1.557%.   2010-2015 growth rate:  7.989%

Tulsa:  2015:  981,005...  increase of 10,989.  2014-15 growth rate:  1.123%. 2010-2015 growth rate:  4.365%

Omaha:  2015:  915,312.... increase of 10,045. 2014-15 growth rate:  1.11%.  2010-2015 growth rate:  5.43%

Kansas City:  2015:  2,087,471... increase of 16,188.  2014-15 growth rate: 0.782%.  2010-2015 growth rate:  3.663%

Wichita:  2015:  644,610.. increase of 3,130.  2014-15 growth rate:  0.488%.  2010-2015 growth rate:  2.010%

Little Rock:  2015:  731,612.. increase of 2,652.  2014-15 growth rate:  0.364%.  2010-2015 growth rate: 4.15


Looks like Houston and Austin are cooling down some.  Growth in some of the cities like Wichita and Little Rock would indicate virtually no one is moving there, just more people being born.

A friend of mine is fond of saying: "Wichita is where things that suck go to feel better about themselves."
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carltonplace

looks like we are just a couple of rednecks better than Little Rock.

cannon_fodder

Quote from: Conan71 on March 24, 2016, 01:48:53 PM
...Growth in some of the cities like Wichita and Little Rock would indicate virtually no one is moving there, just more people being born.

A friend of mine is fond of saying: "Wichita is where things that suck go to feel better about themselves."

Careful there. Tulsa is only slightly above Wichita in this regard. Your statistics statement is dangerously close to being accurate.

The health data is kept by the County, not the MSA... but Tulsa County sees about 10k births per year, and only 5300 deaths. So if the people born in Tulsa County stayed in Tulsa County, we would grow by 5,000 people per year. For the entire state, the birth rate is ~15.1 per 1k. The death rate is ~10 per 1k. Tulsa has a higher Hispanic population, and thus a higher birth rate that often goes along with that demographic.

Anyway, extending the State data to the rest of Tulsa Metro's ~360k people that live outside the County and we have:
5,400 births
3,600 deaths
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1,800 net

Add in the 5k net births in Tulsa county and we are up to 6,800 net just from people being born and dying.  So other than people being born here, we gained ~3200 people.  The good news is we are still crushing the national growth rate of 1%.

The only reason I care about growth is for more opportunity, more diversity, and better development. It is hard to develop new condos and restaurants downtown if there are houses abandoned (and therefore cheap) in Jenks. Growth for the sake of growth is a zero sum game.
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Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on March 24, 2016, 01:48:53 PM
A friend of mine is fond of saying: "Wichita is where things that suck go to feel better about themselves."

Co workers were wondering why I snorted after I read that.  Well done, friend of Conan!

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Hoss on March 24, 2016, 04:00:35 PM
Co workers were wondering why I snorted after I read that.  Well done, friend of Conan!


Me too!  Read it to the office and all appreciated that - we have a branch there that "lives the dream"....
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

swake

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Quote from: cannon_fodder on March 24, 2016, 03:40:06 PM
Careful there. Tulsa is only slightly above Wichita in this regard. Your statistics statement is dangerously close to being accurate.

The health data is kept by the County, not the MSA... but Tulsa County sees about 10k births per year, and only 5300 deaths. So if the people born in Tulsa County stayed in Tulsa County, we would grow by 5,000 people per year. For the entire state, the birth rate is ~15.1 per 1k. The death rate is ~10 per 1k. Tulsa has a higher Hispanic population, and thus a higher birth rate that often goes along with that demographic.

Anyway, extending the State data to the rest of Tulsa Metro's ~360k people that live outside the County and we have:
5,400 births
3,600 deaths
- - - - - -
1,800 net

Add in the 5k net births in Tulsa county and we are up to 6,800 net just from people being born and dying.  So other than people being born here, we gained ~3200 people.  The good news is we are still crushing the national growth rate of 1%.

The only reason I care about growth is for more opportunity, more diversity, and better development. It is hard to develop new condos and restaurants downtown if there are houses abandoned (and therefore cheap) in Jenks. Growth for the sake of growth is a zero sum game.

Here are the real census numbers, they aren't that bad, nothing compared to Wichita. Where we actually seem weakest is Natural Growth. For some reason our gap between births and deaths is lower than other nearby cities.
2010 to 2015:

Tulsa
Population (2015) 981,005  +4.6%
Total Growth: 43,477
Natural Increase: 22,373
Domestic Net Migration: 13,365
International Net Migration: 7,175

Wichita
Population (2015) 644,610  +2.2%
Total Growth: 13,691
Natural Increase: 20,106
Domestic Net Migration: (13,193) - loss
International Net Migration: 6,633

Oklahoma City
Population (2015) 1,358,452  +8.4%
Total Growth: 105,460
Natural Increase: 41,907
Domestic Net Migration: 46,660
International Net Migration: 15,718

Omaha
Population (2015) 915,312  +5.8%
Total Growth: 49,956
Natural Increase: 35,608
Domestic Net Migration: 4,003
International Net Migration: 11,348


Little Rock
Population (2015) 731,612  +4.5%
Total Growth: 31,789
Natural Increase: 18,484
Domestic Net Migration: 7,888
International Net Migration: 5,310

Kansas City
Population (2015) 2,087,471  +3.9%
Total Growth: 78,133
Natural Increase: 60,024
Domestic Net Migration: (912) - loss
International Net Migration: 19,578

Note, these are MSA numbers, not city.

http://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?src=bkmk

The scary part to me is Kansas is the region seemingly having the largest issues with growth which makes sense given the political climate there, but we are now rushing headfirst into their problems.