3 dead, 2 injured in series of shootings

[Townsend]

I think it's required in elementary, junior and senior high, unless that's changed. Maybe they have combined it all into high school now? Regardless, quite a bit of state history is taught, especially considering Oklahoma is such a relatively new state. Isn't it odd that arguably one of the most important and poignant events is absent?

Unless something's changed, Oklahoma works with the Texas state board of education for text books.  This is why we learn about Texas independence et al way over Oklahoma history.

[azbadpuppy]

Unless something's changed, Oklahoma works with the Texas state board of education for text books.  This is why we learn about Texas independence et al way over Oklahoma history.

Why is that not surprising?

[azbadpuppy]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/20/us/20tulsa.html?pagewanted=all

Interesting read from the NY Times on the 90th anniversary of the riots in 2011.


This article states that Tulsa Public schools will start teaching students about the race riot for the first time in 2012.

It also states that still only one of the three major textbook publishers includes information on the riot.

[DTowner]

Three semesters of Oklahoma History in highschool.  Learned the hell out of what boomers and sooners were.  Tulsa race riot?  Squat.

Was that Oklahoma history, or specifically Tulsa history?

[Teatownclown]

What's worst, to have it go unnoticed or to claim everything is about race?  I think it is far better to take care of the problem where it does exist and is prevalent and work our way down to the places it hides, but trying to look for it everywhere, despite if it exists or not, is futile.  Worse yet, it undermines the legitimate efforts being done.

Wrong logic. Who claims everything is about race? The Sanford situation is more about lousy police work. I don't even look for racism. But my eyes are keen to pick it up in places at times. Like Sunday morning when I read this nuts FB page before it disappeared and then realized this was a hate crime.

[Townsend]

Was that Oklahoma history, or specifically Tulsa history?

Oklahoma.  I'd expect some Tulsa history to be included. 

[Hoss]

Oklahoma.  I'd expect some Tulsa history to be included. 

Not if those books were written/approved by anyone down the TurnerPike.

[godboko71]

We learned about the riots in school in TPS when I went to school in the 90's and early 00's.

[Townsend]

We learned about the riots in school in TPS when I went to school in the 90's and early 00's.

Lucky.

They probably took a look at me and my 80's classmates in mullets, acid wash cavaricci's, and rolled cuffs and said "only teach them things that won't make a difference".

[custosnox]

Wrong logic. Who claims everything is about race? The Sanford situation is more about lousy police work. I don't even look for racism. But my eyes are keen to pick it up in places at times. Like Sunday morning when I read this nuts FB page before it disappeared and then realized this was a hate crime.

It still has not been determined if that was their motivation.  While it is likely, we still don't have all of the facts, but it's not like you will wait for that before jumping on that train.  And don't tell me you don't look for racism, you seem to see it in so many places, even where it does not exist.

[Red Arrow]

Can you imagine if Germany did not teach their school children about race relations? Of course racism still exists in Germany, but it is so taboo because from early on, German kids are taught just how far hatred can go. I think we can all agree that's a good thing.

I have a few friends in Germany.  They are well aware of the Holocaust.  They also do not get up each morning saying "What can we learn from the Holocaust today?"  At least they didn't when I was visiting.

[Red Arrow]

Just curious, did you learn of the Wyatt's Watts riots in public school?  While I agree that we should learn our history, both good and bad, it seems that some of these things tend to get lost in the vastness of history that we need to learn.  

The thing that really sticks with me from the news about the Watts riots on TV and Radio (yes, I listened to the first edition) was that those people burned down their houses and then complained they had no place to live.  It struck me as odd behavior.  There were some pretty bad neighborhoods in Philadelphia but at least they didn't burn down the only place they had to live.   By then, the city was going through "Urban Renewal" and inexpensive places were going to be difficult to find.

[azbadpuppy]

I have a few friends in Germany.  They are well aware of the Holocaust.  They also do not get up each morning saying "What can we learn from the Holocaust today?"  At least they didn't when I was visiting.

And that is the point. They were made well aware of what happened at an early age, so they could learn from it. OK school kids aren't even taught about what happened in their own back yard. How can we expect anything to change if we ignore it and just hope it doesn't happen again?

Also, I don't think anyone ever said we should wake up everyday and discuss our race issues ad nauseum. It's not an all or nothing proposition. The answer lies somewhere in the middle. Ignoring it completely is definitely not the answer though.

[jacobi]

I was taught about the race riot three different times in elementry, middle, and high school. 

[nathanm]

those people burned down their houses and then complained they had no place to live.

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the people complaining about not having a place to live were not in fact the same as those who burned down houses?