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Started by dioscorides, May 23, 2012, 11:59:45 AM

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Ed W

Quote from: Red Arrow on October 01, 2012, 08:08:04 PM
Yes.  You don't know about it?

I'm perpetually amazed at the speed some of my coworkers use while going to work.  If you're already late - as in you missed your clock-in time - driving faster will not reverse the Earth's rotation and turn back the clock.  On the other hand, I can't understand the LeMans start at quitting time, either.  Some of these guys must sprint from the clock out to their cars, because they're moving mere seconds after the clock-out time.

The parking lot is the most dangerous part of my commute.

Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Red Arrow

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Quote from: Ed W on October 01, 2012, 08:55:35 PM
I'm perpetually amazed at the speed some of my coworkers use while going to work.  If you're already late - as in you missed your clock-in time - driving faster will not reverse the Earth's rotation and turn back the clock.  On the other hand, I can't understand the LeMans start at quitting time, either.  Some of these guys must sprint from the clock out to their cars, because they're moving mere seconds after the clock-out time.
The parking lot is the most dangerous part of my commute.

We have somewhat flexible schedules.  There are core hours when everyone is supposed to be there but an hour or so on either end is available for individual adjustment.  Special events override the flex time, of course.  

I still find that someone going slow in the inside lanes because they don't want to be inconvenienced by right turners (on Memorial) to be just plain discourteous.  Occasionally, they will be turning left but I have followed enough pokie okies from 111th to the Creek Turnpike (96th) that just keep going straight to stand by the discourteous evaluation.  There is no reason (weather and traffic permitting) not to be near the speed limit in the left/inside lanes.

I expect the LeMans start at quitting time is to avoid being stuck in the glug of traffic.   Yep, parking lots are dangerous places.

Edit:  I forgot to say that in the morning the traffic lights appear to be timed and I can frequently make it from 111th to the Turnpike with only one or two stops for traffic lights.  Sometimes there is a delay at a light due to traffic but the light is green long enough to make it through.  Sometimes I can get all the way on the Turnpike without stopping after 111th.  Three lanes going slow will screw that up.  On the weekend, the trip is hopeless.  I try to stay off of Memorial.  Counting the lights at 111th and the light to turn west on the Turnpike, there are 9 traffic lights in 1-1/2 miles.
 

ZYX

It can take 20monutes to go four miles n Memorial on a Sarurday. Great fun!

Hoss

Quote from: ZYX on October 01, 2012, 10:30:12 PM
It can take 20monutes to go four miles n Memorial on a Sarurday. Great fun!

Good reason to use Mingo or Garnett up to a point...Memorial between 31st and Bixby is sheer madness most days.

Red Arrow

Quote from: Hoss on October 01, 2012, 10:35:56 PM
Good reason to use Mingo or Garnett up to a point...Memorial between 31st and Bixby is sheer madness most days.

I sometimes use Sheridan.  If I am going west, I may take 111th to Yale and then north to the Turnpike or even go south to 121st and then to Delaware (River Road).  Traffic on Memorial north of 91st often lightens up a bit compared to 91st to about 131st.  Come visit us a little after noon on a nice Saturday.  Make sure you have plenty of gas in your car.
 

Conan71

Quote from: Ed W on October 01, 2012, 04:44:25 PM
When I was riding to work and back regularly, bike commuting actually became kind of boring. I saw the same drivers every day, the same dogs, the same gravel trucks.  I didn't meet any homicidal maniacs driving cars.  No one tried to kill me.

Driving on US169, on the other hand, has been an exercise in frustration and annoyance.  The road goes from three lanes down to two at 56th Street North, and there's a sign telling drivers that about a mile further south.  Rather than merge smoothly with traffic, however, a considerable number of fellow motorists have to gain a critical couple of seconds by passing everyone by driving in that right hand lane until it ends.  Then they merge suddenly, causing a chain reaction as drivers attempt to avoid them.

What is it about driving a car that disables basic courtesy?  For that matter, the ability to do simple math seems disabled too, as there's little to be gained by driving aggressively.  Perhaps that aggressive driver gains 15 seconds on following traffic.  Is there a prize awarded for "First Place at the Next Traffic Light"?


Riding a bike taught me not to get concerned over traffic.  My bigger concern was the wind and weather.  A good tailwind took 5-7 minutes off the commute, while a stiff headwind added 10-15.   

That probably causes more wrecks in construction zones than anything, the jackass who just has to try and merge at the very last second and doesn't understand he/she and the other jackasses doing the same thing are the reason traffic is not flowing well through the merge area.  The stupid behavior I see behind the wheel these days is truly vexing.  It's not always been that way around Tulsa. 
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

RecycleMichael

Power is nothing till you use it.

Conan71

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on October 02, 2012, 09:42:35 AM
the jackass who just has to try and merge at the very last second and doesn't understand he/she and the other jackasses doing the same thing are the reason traffic is not flowing well through the merge area. 

A limited number of people late merging increases throughput if there is available space for them to merge in. Late merging into inadequate space causes jams. It's an interesting math problem.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on October 02, 2012, 01:30:46 PM
A limited number of people late merging increases throughput if there is available space for them to merge in. Late merging into inadequate space causes jams. It's an interesting math problem.

I've never seen it happen as people generally are jamming on their brakes to A) Brake-check the a-hole who just crammed in on their rear bumper and then the chain-reaction starts.

Jeebus Nate, do you ever quit?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on October 02, 2012, 02:45:03 PM
Jeebus Nate, do you ever quit?

Quit what, knowing things about things? Yes, sometimes I do. It usually involves rum, but does occasionally involve Sundown Wheat.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on October 02, 2012, 03:12:27 PM
Quit what, knowing things about things? Yes, sometimes I do. It usually involves rum, but does occasionally involve Sundown Wheat.

You need to expand your horizons.  Try some Atlas IPA.
 

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on October 02, 2012, 01:30:46 PM
A limited number of people late merging increases throughput if there is available space for them to merge in. Late merging into inadequate space causes jams. It's an interesting math problem.

The only time there will be adequate space to merge late is when some maroon is leaving way too much space for the speed.  If you cut in front of that driver, (s)he will dutifully step on the brakes to maintain that space.  This will cause a wave behind that totally screws up everything.  How many times have we all finally got to the front of a traffic jam to find nothing there to cause a jam. Way too many for me.