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Conan71

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on June 08, 2012, 12:52:55 PM
I have never been able to figure out what the benefit of sub-arc welding is?  Over the gas or other flux based systems...  Can anyone here 'splain it to me?




We have an automated sub-arc, it's great for seam welding thick vessels and saves a ton of time.  The reliability of the welds is excellent.
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heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Conan71 on June 08, 2012, 12:56:15 PM
We have an automated sub-arc, it's great for seam welding thick vessels and saves a ton of time.  The reliability of the welds is excellent.


How is the time saved?  Is it just the dual wire or can you actually go at a faster speed?  (Videos don't seem to go any faster.)  Are they "dialing" in the metal with an alloying agent in the flux powder?   (Good MIG should give at least the same reliability, I would think....??)


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Conan71

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on June 08, 2012, 01:11:57 PM

How is the time saved?  Is it just the dual wire or can you actually go at a faster speed?  (Videos don't seem to go any faster.)  Are they "dialing" in the metal with an alloying agent in the flux powder?   (Good MIG should give at least the same reliability, I would think....??)




It doesn't experience fatigue, need a smoke break, etc.  Really not my area of expertise as far as how it works, I just know it's a time-saver for us.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

guido911

Whew, just heard Obama say that the private sector is doing fine. Glad that's over with.

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Townsend

Quote from: guido911 on June 08, 2012, 03:15:58 PM
Whew, just heard Obama say that the private sector is doing fine. Glad that's over with.


Great.  Maybe we'll finally get some cooperation within the government.  That'd be super.

nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on June 08, 2012, 03:15:58 PM
Whew, just heard Obama say that the private sector is doing fine. Glad that's over with.



(after tax nonfinancial corporate profits, inflation adjusted, in billions of 2005 dollars)

What do you think, bucko?
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Gaspar

Quote from: nathanm on June 08, 2012, 03:23:08 PM


(after tax nonfinancial corporate profits, inflation adjusted, in billions of 2005 dollars)

What do you think, bucko?

Excellent!  Private sector is fine, now we can turn our attentions to more re-distribution programs. 

I knew all those unemployed folks were just joking around.  Why is the president even giving a speech on the economy.  Seems odd since we are all doing so well.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on June 08, 2012, 03:30:55 PM
Excellent!  Private sector is fine, now we can turn our attentions to more re-distribution programs. 

I knew all those unemployed folks were just joking around.  Why is the president even giving a speech on the economy.  Seems odd since we are all doing so well.

I'm not surprised you don't grasp the difference between companies and workers. After all, your political beliefs depend on not seeing it.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Gaspar

Quote from: nathanm on June 08, 2012, 03:33:49 PM
I'm not surprised you don't grasp the difference between companies and workers. After all, your political beliefs depend on not seeing it.

No. I get it.  The economy is doing fine.  Workers are sucking smile, but the economy rocks.  We have recovered, and President Obama deserves praise.

Now it's time to bleed those evil rich folks who won't hire anyone.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on June 08, 2012, 03:51:55 PM
No. I get it.  The economy is doing fine.  Workers are sucking smile, but the economy rocks.  We have recovered, and President Obama deserves praise.

Corporations, which make up much of the economy, are indeed doing fine. I don't think Obama or anyone else is saying we're all doing fine or that we have recovered as a whole. However, much progress has been made and the private sector has generally been stabilized. You can't possibly acknowledge that, though, because it would imply that not every Obama policy has been a complete disaster.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

Quote from: nathanm on June 08, 2012, 03:23:08 PM


(after tax nonfinancial corporate profits, inflation adjusted, in billions of 2005 dollars)

What do you think, bucko?

Oh wait, economy is not doing fine. Sorry about the inconvenience.
QuoteUnder fire from Republicans, President Obama clarified an earlier assessment of the health of the private sector, explaining that it's "absolutely clear" the economy is not doing "fine."

The president, in response to a question Friday afternoon in the Oval Office, backtracked somewhat on his comments his morning that "the private sector is doing fine."

"It is absolutely clear that the economy is not doing fine. That's why I had a press conference," Obama said.

Obama's original comment drew immediate scrutiny from Republicans; Romney, speaking in Iowa, said the comment showed that Obama was "out of touch."
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/08/12127428-obama-it-is-absolutely-clear-that-the-economy-is-not-doing-fine?lite?ocid=twitter


Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Gaspar

Quote from: nathanm on June 08, 2012, 03:54:53 PM
You can't possibly acknowledge that, though, because it would imply that not every Obama policy has been a complete disaster.

Not true.  He's doing awesome in the war on terror, and he's successful in working with many of our foreign counterparts.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Guido, it's a mixed bag. Companies and management are generally doing fine, as is the wage growth of those who are employed, consumer credit utilization is back to something reasonable, and consumer spending is mostly back where it was before the implosion, and housing prices should be pretty near the bottom now that unsold inventory is declining. In other words, lots of bright spots.

That's cold comfort to the unemployed, I know. After all, they see bright spots but still have no job.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on June 07, 2012, 11:52:32 PM
You are dangerously close to a point that is huge on my radar - the blue collar guy versus an engineer's attitude. 

I just got done sanitizing my keyboard and now I'm going to have to do it again.

Seriously,  I have always found that a good relationship with the guys in the shop has been one of my most valuable assets.
 

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Red Arrow on June 08, 2012, 10:07:23 PM
I just got done sanitizing my keyboard and now I'm going to have to do it again.

Seriously,  I have always found that a good relationship with the guys in the shop has been one of my most valuable assets.


Why sanitize then??  We agree absolutely on yet another point...oh, yeah, that's why - because we agree!  (How did you get so far off in the weeds on some of these other things? lol)

Maybe it's not the keyboard that's at issue....



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.