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Tell us why Romney will be a great president.

Started by RecycleMichael, June 08, 2012, 08:28:17 PM

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Quote from: nathanm on June 10, 2012, 07:07:30 PM
Uh, what? Unless you're making a new policy proposal, you're off base here. Interest income has long been taxable at the usual earned income rates. I'm not talking about taking something away from average middle class folks.

Just trying to answer your question of "Also, why does he think unearned income should be taxed at a lower rate than earned income?"

Maybe it should be different. I do not consider myself rich by any measure other than not living from paycheck to paycheck.  The money I put in savings in the credit union (several actually) makes it possible for others to get home improvement loans, car loans, loans for a Jet Ski.......  I could put it under my mattress for the interest rates I am getting.  I could put it in the stock market.  I am NOT a Warren Buffet.  The places I put a little extra cash help make it possible for others to get the things they want.  I could move my money to tax free muni bonds.  Maybe that would satisfy you.
 

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Quote from: guido911 on June 10, 2012, 06:36:36 PM
As for the lashing, must you always turn every thread into something perverted? Oh wait...

Yep, it grabs attention that would otherwise let a good thread go to waste.

;D
 

guido911

Quote from: RecycleMichael on June 10, 2012, 07:07:39 PM
I am surprised by you guido. Your odd obsession with the 2008 RecycleMichael quotes on TulsaNow are quite flattering. Thanks for posting them.

What they show are a liberal who wasn't sold on his party's nomination. I wrote dozens of thoughts, each time reading what others were saying and discussing my evolving views with all those who read them.

It is funny that you selectively post random sentences out of long posts. The last one you posted had a line or two that summed up how I felt the first week of June (exactly four weeks ago). Here it is...

I won't vote for McCain. I think he is wrong on the war, wrong on nuclear energy, wrong on immigration, and wrong for America. He was my favorite republican because of his liberal past and willingness to work with democrats, but the last couple of months he has changed all that to appeal to the republican base.

I will support Obama. But I won't fall in love with him like so many others have. Democrats fall in love with their candidates and republicans fall in line with theirs.



I post the links to the threads to give the reader a chance to see if what I am doing is contextual. Sorry if your words hurt.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

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Quote from: RecycleMichael on June 10, 2012, 07:07:39 PM
The last one you posted had a line or two that summed up how I felt the first week of June (exactly four weeks ago). Here it is...

Are you in a time warp?  Today is 10 June 2012.  The first week of June was not even quite two weeks ago.
 

Teatownclown

Quote from: Conan71 on June 10, 2012, 08:09:46 PM
And you advocate violence against humans who have ZERO say as to whether or not they get sucked out of the womb?  Ever see what those womb vacs do to tiny bones?

Nice straw man.

You really want to argue zygotes? Again? It gets old watching you in the mire of the 20th century.

Move on...you have no power over women:

RecycleMichael

Quote from: Breadburner on June 10, 2012, 08:20:49 PM
Anyone would seem great after following the doofus we have in office....

You are being too hard on Bush.
Power is nothing till you use it.

erfalf

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Quote from: nathanm on June 09, 2012, 10:37:28 PM
Ok, if executive experience is an important trait, we ought to consider Romney's record in Massachusetts, where he managed to grow his state more slowly than the national average and, like Obama, managed to invest state funds in failed green energy businesses.



You're not the first and you won't be the last to do this. But this is why you can't have a discussion like this with the opposition. Nathan criticizes Romney for doing thing that Obama does and liberals like it. The most common one being Romney/Obama care. The criticism being that Romney created the blueprint for Obama Care. It would be one thing from a more conservative leaning person, but to hear an Obama supporter spouting that is fairly comical. They criticize Romney for doing things they want Obama to do. That's why this discussion can never really yield anything worth while.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

RecycleMichael

Quote from: erfalf on June 11, 2012, 09:29:21 AM
The criticism being that Romney created the blueprint for Obama Care.... That's why this discussion can never really yield anything worth while.

I'm listening. Please explain to me the customer the differences between Romney's health care program from 2002 and Obama's health care program in 2012. What would I personally do or pay differently?
Power is nothing till you use it.

nathanm

Quote from: erfalf on June 11, 2012, 09:29:21 AM
But this is why you can't have a discussion like this with the opposition.

That's right, you don't get to have the conversation you want to have. The one where we ignore the hypocrisy of Romney and his position. I don't have a problem with "Romney's" failed investment any more than I have a problem with "Obama's" failed investment. Since many of the folks here do have a problem with Obama's failed investment, I thought they might like to know that Romney has had the same experience.

Criticism is not observation, nor is observation criticism. Sorry you can't see that. Or do I not get to point that out because I support such programs, up to a point? It's pretty rich of you to decide all on your own what I get to talk about.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

erfalf

Quote from: nathanm on June 11, 2012, 12:40:25 PM
That's right, you don't get to have the conversation you want to have. The one where we ignore the hypocrisy of Romney and his position. I don't have a problem with "Romney's" failed investment any more than I have a problem with "Obama's" failed investment. Since many of the folks here do have a problem with Obama's failed investment, I thought they might like to know that Romney has had the same experience.

Criticism is not observation, nor is observation criticism. Sorry you can't see that. Or do I not get to point that out because I support such programs, up to a point? It's pretty rich of you to decide all on your own what I get to talk about.

I'm not telling you what you can and can't talk about. I am just saying that apparently I am the only one that sees the comedic value in people criticizing (maybe you aren't but many are) a candidate that they would never vote for for doing exactly what their favored candidate did or does.

Am I the only one that sees this. Just like listening to NBC to have them tell the Republican's who they should nominate when they have no interest whatsoever in said candidate winning anything.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Hoss

Quote from: erfalf on June 11, 2012, 12:52:43 PM
I'm not telling you what you can and can't talk about. I am just saying that apparently I am the only one that sees the comedic value in people criticizing (maybe you aren't but many are) a candidate that they would never vote for for doing exactly what their favored candidate did or does.

Am I the only one that sees this. Just like listening to NBC to have them tell the Republican's who they should nominate when they have no interest whatsoever in said candidate winning anything.

Just like Fox's 5 minute anti-Obama commercial...

Teatownclown

RMoney will be a grate Prez as he would allow insurers to deny coverage to millions of Americans with pre-existing conditions if the Supreme Court strikes down Obamacare later this month.

Conan71

Quote from: Teatownclown on June 12, 2012, 12:31:05 PM
RMoney will be a grate Prez as he would allow insurers to deny coverage to millions of Americans with pre-existing conditions if the Supreme Court strikes down Obamacare later this month.

Hardly his prevue. That failure falls squarely on POTUS Obama's shoulders.  He even tried to stack the deck with Kagen.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Teatownclown

Quote from: Conan71 on June 12, 2012, 03:07:20 PM
Hardly his prevue. That failure falls squarely on POTUS Obama's shoulders.  He even tried to stack the deck with Kagen.

More vacuousness from you. If RMoney were to be elected.

Gaspar

Quote from: Conan71 on June 12, 2012, 03:07:20 PM
Hardly his prevue. That failure falls squarely on POTUS Obama's shoulders.  He even tried to stack the deck with Kagen.

Had he not appointed Voldemort's sister to cobble the thing together he might have gotten away with it.  Her double-dipping and false estimates eroded any public confidence there might have been.

Additionally U.S. Solicitor General Donald Verrilli's argument before the court that caused them to laugh at him when he framed the mandate as both a penalty and a tax, and gave a performance that was so bad it made your skin crawl.

The failure of Obamacare is the fault of it's architects.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.