Isn't 28 years on the TMAPC long enough?

[PonderInc]

Just glancing at the members of the TMAPC, and wondering why Gail Carnes has been serving on the planning commission since 1984?  Isn't 28 years a long time to exert influence like that?  Aren't republicans generallly in favor of term limits over lifetime appointments?

I don't have a specific gripe against Mr Carnes (well, aside from the typical TMAPC lack of imagination and an overly narrow developer-centric perspective).  Just wondering.  Really?  There's nobody else in town to fill the role and bring in some fresh perspectives? 

If I were a YP, I'd be sort of worried about someone who had been making these decisions about Tulsa's future longer than I had been alive!

Anybody remember 1984?

Movies:
1. Beverly Hills Cop
2. Ghostbuster
3. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
4. Gremlins
5. The Karate Kid
6. Police Academy
7. Footloose
8. Romancing The Stone
9. Star Trek III: The Search For Spock
10. Splash

1984 Most Popular TV shows:
1. Dynasty (ABC)
2. Dallas (CBS)
3. The Cosby Show (NBC)
4. 60 Minutes (CBS)
5. Family Ties (NBC)
6. The A-Team (NBC)
7. Simon & Simon (CBS)
8. Murder, She Wrote (CBS)
9. Knots Landing (CBS)
10. Falcon Crest (CBS) 
1984 Billboard

Number One Songs:
December 10, 1983 - January 20, 1984:
Say Say Say - Paul McCartney featuring Michael Jackson

January 21 - February 3:
Owner of a Lonely Heart - Yes

February 4 - February 24:
Karma Chameleon - Culture Club

February 25 - March 20:
Jump - Van Halen

March 31 - April 20:
Footloose - Kenny Loggins

April 21 - May 11:
Against All Odds (Take A Look At Me Now) - Phil Collins

May 12 - May 25:
Hello - Lionel Richie

May 26 - June 8:
Let's Hear It For the Boy - Deniece Williams

June 9 - June 22:
Time After Time - Cyndi Lauper

June 23 - July 6:
The Reflex - Duran Duran

July 7 - August 10:
When Doves Cry - Prince

August 11 - August 31:
Ghostbusters - Ray Parker, Jr.

September 1 - September 21:
What's Love Got to Do With It - Tina Turner

September 22 - September 28:
Missing You - John Waite

September 29 - October 12:
Let's Go Crazy - Prince & The Revolution

October 13 - November 2:
I Just Called To Say I Love You - Stevie Wonder

November 3 - November 16:
Caribbean Queen (No More Love On the Run) - Billy Ocean

November 17 - December 7:
Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go - Wham!

December 8 - December 21:
Out of Touch - Hall & Oates

December 22, 1984 - February 1, 1985:
Like a Virgin - Madonna

[dsjeffries]

Just glancing at the members of the TMAPC, and wondering why Gail Carnes has been serving on the planning commission since 1984?  Isn't 28 years a long time to exert influence like that?  Aren't republicans generallly in favor of term limits over lifetime appointments?

I don't have a specific gripe against Mr Carnes (well, aside from the typical TMAPC lack of imagination and an overly narrow developer-centric perspective).  Just wondering.  Really?  There's nobody else in town to fill the role and bring in some fresh perspectives?  

If I were a YP, I'd be sort of worried about someone who had been making these decisions about Tulsa's future longer than I had been alive!

I agree. I don't know the fine details about how TMAPC appointments are made or the reconfirmation process (if there even is one), but a lifetime appointment to a post that is intended to drive the city forward seems counter-intuitive to say the least. Do they have set terms? If so, are the terms staggered? Or do they have their post as long as they want it?

And perhaps you don't have any particular gripes about any one member right now, but those people's voting records on zoning/land use issues (for the past 30 years, apparently) aren't exactly easy to access.

[Conan71]

Just glancing at the members of the TMAPC, and wondering why Gail Carnes has been serving on the planning commission since 1984?  Isn't 28 years a long time to exert influence like that?  Aren't republicans generallly in favor of term limits over lifetime appointments?

I don't have a specific gripe against Mr Carnes (well, aside from the typical TMAPC lack of imagination and an overly narrow developer-centric perspective).  Just wondering.  Really?  There's nobody else in town to fill the role and bring in some fresh perspectives? 

If I were a YP, I'd be sort of worried about someone who had been making these decisions about Tulsa's future longer than I had been alive!

Anybody remember 1984?

Movies:
1. Beverly Hills Cop
2. Ghostbuster
3. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
4. Gremlins
5. The Karate Kid
6. Police Academy
7. Footloose
8. Romancing The Stone
9. Star Trek III: The Search For Spock
10. Splash

1984 Most Popular TV shows:
1. Dynasty (ABC)
2. Dallas (CBS)
3. The Cosby Show (NBC)
4. 60 Minutes (CBS)
5. Family Ties (NBC)
6. The A-Team (NBC)
7. Simon & Simon (CBS)
8. Murder, She Wrote (CBS)
9. Knots Landing (CBS)
10. Falcon Crest (CBS) 
1984 Billboard

Number One Songs:
December 10, 1983 - January 20, 1984:
Say Say Say - Paul McCartney featuring Michael Jackson

January 21 - February 3:
Owner of a Lonely Heart - Yes

February 4 - February 24:
Karma Chameleon - Culture Club

February 25 - March 20:
Jump - Van Halen

March 31 - April 20:
Footloose - Kenny Loggins

April 21 - May 11:
Against All Odds (Take A Look At Me Now) - Phil Collins

May 12 - May 25:
Hello - Lionel Richie

May 26 - June 8:
Let's Hear It For the Boy - Deniece Williams

June 9 - June 22:
Time After Time - Cyndi Lauper

June 23 - July 6:
The Reflex - Duran Duran

July 7 - August 10:
When Doves Cry - Prince

August 11 - August 31:
Ghostbusters - Ray Parker, Jr.

September 1 - September 21:
What's Love Got to Do With It - Tina Turner

September 22 - September 28:
Missing You - John Waite

September 29 - October 12:
Let's Go Crazy - Prince & The Revolution

October 13 - November 2:
I Just Called To Say I Love You - Stevie Wonder

November 3 - November 16:
Caribbean Queen (No More Love On the Run) - Billy Ocean

November 17 - December 7:
Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go - Wham!

December 8 - December 21:
Out of Touch - Hall & Oates

December 22, 1984 - February 1, 1985:
Like a Virgin - Madonna

"I'm Casey Kasem and that's your weekly American Top 40 Countdown"

[sgrizzle]

I don't remember it that well.. but I was 8 after all.

[jacobi]

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I don't remember it that well.. but I was 8 after all.

I was 2...

[Hoss]

I was 2...

I was a junior and senior in highschool.  I have half of those songs on my iPod now...wait....

[dbacks fan]

I was 2...

Thanks, I feel old now, I was dating my 2nd future ex wife at the time........

[jacobi]

Thanks, I feel old now, I was dating my 2nd future ex wife at the time........

Well I'm not 30 yet (26 days)  and i'm separated from my second wife.  Do you feel younger or just wiser?

[Red Arrow]

1984?  Seems like yesterday.  When I read Orwell's "1984", it was still years in the future.  Are you guys old enough to post?

[Hoss]

Well I'm not 30 yet (26 days)  and i'm separated from my second wife.  Do you feel younger or just wiser?

Wow.  I'm one time married, one time divorced.  I've been liberated now for 19 years.  I had one other try and rope me back into that mess in 1997.  I almost fell for it.  Glad I didn't.

"Know why divorces are so expensive?  Because they're worth it".

[Red Arrow]

Wow.  I'm one time married, one time divorced.  I've been liberated now for 19 years.  I had one other try and rope me back into that mess in 1997.  I almost fell for it.  Glad I didn't.
"Know why divorces are so expensive?  Because they're worth it".

Marriage is the leading cause of divorce.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Well I'm not 30 yet (26 days)  and i'm separated from my second wife.  Do you feel younger or just wiser?

Maybe a time out from wives is in order....


Most of you are kids!!  Enjoy it while you got it - it goes WAY too fast.

[heironymouspasparagus]

1984?  Seems like yesterday.  When I read Orwell's "1984", it was still years in the future.  Are you guys old enough to post?

No kidding... now it's years in the past!


"There are three stages in your reintegration . . . There is learning, there is understanding, and there is acceptance"
(1984)

[jacobi]

Maybe a time out from wives is in order....

+1

[heironymouspasparagus]

+1

Will save you a ton of money!!