TULSA'S WATER GOES DOWN THE DRAIN!

[Red Arrow]

Depends on what you need the water for as to what the ideal pH is.  For most household purposes, a pH around 8 or so is pretty ideal.  Tulsa water is not far off what is considered "mineral water" by the snake oil salesmen.  Moderate alkalinity, moderate hardness, not particularly high in iron or sulfides.  Still not sure where the Will Rogers Hotel in Claremore got their "miracle" water from.  If it was off the Verdigris watershed, it's the same water much of Tulsa bathes in daily.

I think these guys were pushing for a pH around 9 or 10.

[AquaMan]

I thought the "miracle" of the Will Rogers Hotel was sulfur and radium.

Whenever a public utility goes with price (chloramine is cheaper than chlorine I heard) over quality and effectiveness it gives me pause. I can't drink much wine because of the preservatives used domestically, notably ethlene glycol. Dang. That limits me to Vodka, Whiskey, Rum and cheap beer.

I don't expect to live forever but I would rather not change the chemical makeup the good Lord intended for my body.

[Red Arrow]

I thought the "miracle" of the Will Rogers Hotel was sulfur and radium.

Whenever a public utility goes with price (chloramine is cheaper than chlorine I heard) over quality and effectiveness it gives me pause. I can't drink much wine because of the preservatives used domestically, notably ethlene glycol. Dang. That limits me to Vodka, Whiskey, Rum and cheap beer.

I don't expect to live forever but I would rather not change the chemical makeup the good Lord intended for my body.

I saw a spot on the TV that the reason chloramine is being used is because plain chlorine does not do a good enough job, regardless of cost.  I haven't researched it.

You better stick to good beer rather than cheap beer.  Cheap beer (at least used to) have formaldehyde in it.  Talk about getting pickled.  Make your own wine.  Get kits at High Gravity.

[Conan71]

I think these guys were pushing for a pH around 9 or 10.

pH 10 might start tasting a little soapy

[Red Arrow]

pH 10 might start tasting a little soapy

They had some samples.  It tasted a little different but I don't remember it being soapy or otherwise objectionable.

[Conan71]

I thought the "miracle" of the Will Rogers Hotel was sulfur and radium.

Whenever a public utility goes with price (chloramine is cheaper than chlorine I heard) over quality and effectiveness it gives me pause. I can't drink much wine because of the preservatives used domestically, notably ethlene glycol. Dang. That limits me to Vodka, Whiskey, Rum and cheap beer.

I don't expect to live forever but I would rather not change the chemical makeup the good Lord intended for my body.

I'd never heard of such a thing about ethylene glycol in wine.  To my knowledge, there's no such thing as food grade ethylene glycol.  The food grade glycol is propylene glycol, but that doesn't seem to be in wine.  Doing further research there was a scandal in Austria in 1985 where vintners had added diethylene glycol to sweeten their wines.

Seems the most common preservative is sulfur dioxide, and according to this article, it's added at a rate of about 1.5 tablespoons per 1300 bottles of wine.

http://www.readersdigest.com.au/wine-preservatives-and-additives-facts

Not calling you out, just letting you know that wine is safer than you were led to believe.

There's also an organic boxed wine, but the name is escaping me at the moment.  Actually a pretty good wine.

[AquaMan]

Thanks. Some incorrect info remains in the brain forever. I probably saw propylene glycol, probably remembered the 1985 scandal and put it all together. I seem to remember that whatever the preservative is, the local vintners don't need to use it. It was only for wines transported to other countries.

At any rate, quantity ingested seems to be the more important factor.

[Hoss]

Thanks. Some incorrect info remains in the brain forever. I probably saw propylene glycol, probably remembered the 1985 scandal and put it all together. I seem to remember that whatever the preservative is, the local vintners don't need to use it. It was only for wines transported to other countries.

At any rate, quantity ingested seems to be the more important factor.

[AquaMan]

Classic.

Anybody who thinks marijuana is a dangerous drug...has never taken shots of tequila, salt and lime.

A faint memory...."slow down man, you're driving too fast dude!"

"uh, Steve, we're only doing 5mph and we're still in the parking lot."

[RecycleMichael]

Computers allow people make mistakes faster than anything else with the possible exception of tequila.

[Conan71]

Computers allow people make mistakes faster than anything else with the possible exception of tequila.

Great laugh to start the weekend.  I can have my first shot now.

[Red Arrow]

I can have my first shot now.

I'm waiting until 5.  We have a painting of a clock with all "5"s instead of 1 thru 12.  I think I'll use that one.

[nathanm]

Great laugh to start the weekend.  I can have my first shot now.

I think it's a rum weekend, not a tequila weekend.

[Conan71]

I'm waiting until 5.  We have a painting of a clock with all "5"s instead of 1 thru 12.  I think I'll use that one.

I do have a wall of cool 1950's starburst clocks all set at 5pm.

I think all the clocks at TTC's place are set to 4:20

[Red Arrow]

I think it's a rum weekend, not a tequila weekend.

Bring some back from the islands?