Mitt Romney - police impersonator

[Conan71]

You really beat the sh!t out of logic. I would not expect you to understand integrity. Obama was never against gay marriage. And the outsourcing of jobs to China by Bain directly benefited RMoney's pocket Obama's loyal bundlers.

Personally, I seriously doubt he's ever been against it, but he's on public record saying he was:

In 2008, he said:  "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/may/11/barack-obama/president-barack-obamas-shift-gay-marriage/

So he either lied about his stance on it very publicly in 2008, or he's now for it for political expedience.  Neither shows integrity.

[Teatownclown]

Not in favor is not against....just to counter punch.

[TeeDub]

How do you argue against a website that is only a year old?  (www.nationalmemo.com)

Oh right, you ignore it.

[nathanm]

It would be nice to hear anyone else's account of Obama's formative years.

You already have. He was part of a pot smoking gang. Obama was that guy who would take the J from you if you were too slow.

Conan, I believe RM and others have been quite open about what successes they consider Obama to have had. You, on the other hand, refuse to acknowledge any. That's OK, I understand that him doing what you want is irrelevant since he's apparently so far left that he's almost Communist. (Nevermind the facts)

[Conan71]

You already have. He was part of a pot smoking gang. Obama was that guy who would take the J from you if you were too slow.

Conan, I believe RM and others have been quite open about what successes they consider Obama to have had. You, on the other hand, refuse to acknowledge any. That's OK, I understand that him doing what you want is irrelevant since he's apparently so far left that he's almost Communist. (Nevermind the facts)

That's actually not true.  I've applauded his few accomplishments when they have happened.

[Gaspar]

You already have. He was part of a pot smoking gang. Obama was that guy who would take the J from you if you were too slow.

Conan, I believe RM and others have been quite open about what successes they consider Obama to have had. You, on the other hand, refuse to acknowledge any. That's OK, I understand that him doing what you want is irrelevant since he's apparently so far left that he's almost Communist. (Nevermind the facts)

He does deserve credit in one arena. . .

He has been the most successful president in history for delivering terrorists to their awaiting virgins. Between 1,658 and 2,597 militants vaporized now with only about 391 – 780 civilians killed (according to Bureau of Investigative Journalism).  No messy prisons, tricky interrogations, free prayer mats, lawyers or drawn out trials.  Just KABOOM! . . .and he was able to do it without any congressional approval. 


Unfortunately his ability to solve simple economic problems has been challenging.

[nathanm]

Unfortunately his ability to solve simple economic problems has been challenging.

And you wonder why people call you delusional. We had the worst financial crisis since the great depression and many other countries are worse off today than they were 5 years after the start of the Depression, yet you call the economic problems simple. 

[heironymouspasparagus]

And you wonder why people call you delusional. We had the worst financial crisis since the great depression and many other countries are worse off today than they were 5 years after the start of the Depression, yet you call the economic problems simple. 

Simple for him because he has been relatively unaffected - no layoff.


Full disclosure - I haven't been laid off for almost 6 years, too, so have also been relatively unaffected.  Well, except for the standard reduction in standard of living due to the ongoing reduction in real terms of income - but that has continued for 30+ years, so it is just hanging round the background...

[nathanm]

Seriously, Mitt? If you really think your time at Bain was so peachy (which is fine, we all have our opinions), why on earth did you lie about when you stepped down as CEO of Bain and why did you claim you had no involvement with it or any of its companies after that time if you were still working for Bain companies in 2002?

http://bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2012/07/11/government-documents-indicate-mitt-romney-continued-bain-after-date-when-says-left/IpfKYWjnrsel4pvCFbsUTI/story.html

(alternately, be glad you weren't the one who F'd up the SEC filings and articles of incorporation)

Seriously, though, this is just weird.

[Red Arrow]

He has been the most successful president in history for delivering terrorists to their awaiting virgins.

That's actually a typo. The persons awaiting are Virginians, Washington, Jefferson....

[Ed W]

http://www.nationalmemo.com/did-young-mitt-romney-impersonate-a-police-officer-another-witness-says-yes/

When Mitt Romney was a college freshman, he told fellow residents of his Stanford University dormitory that he sometimes disguised himself as a police officer – a crime in many states, including Michigan and California, where he then lived. And he had the uniform on display as proof.

So recalls Robin Madden, who had also just arrived as a freshman, the startling incident began when Romney called him and two or three other residents into his room, saying, "Come up, I want to show you something." When they entered Romney's room, "and laid out on his bed was a Michigan State Trooper's uniform."

While Romney's freshman year may be instructive regarding the formation of his views and subsequent behavior, I don't think it has much relevance to his candidacy, Michael.  His stint at Bain and his refusal to release his tax returns are more recent and more revealing.  Tossing fellow Americans out of work while investing his money in foreign businesses has every appearance of destructive, self-serving capitalism.  If he doesn't release his tax returns, he's not forced to reveal whether he deliberately ruined American companies for his personal enrichment.  When he said that Detroit should be allowed to go out of business, did he say so because he owns large number of shares in foreign car companies?  Without the tax returns, we'll never know.

I think the Romneycare/Obamacare flip-flops are revealing, too, because it shows us that Mitt is far more concerned with his political career than with any personal integrity.  His state insurance scheme was the pattern for the Affordable Care Act, yet he repudiated it as a presidential candidate.  Then just recently, he said that he agreed with the central ideas - kids covered under their parent's policies, no denial for pre-existing conditions, and more - yet it turned out his only major disagreement involved paying for it.  

Every politician does this to some extent.  One of the maxims is "the large print giveth and the small print taketh away."  They're all in favor of good schools, good roads, a strong national defense, and on and on, yet Mitt is sketchy on the details of how to implement the grandiose ideas.  Some of his are laughably absurd, like the contention that larger class sizes would actually benefit children.  

Let's go a step further and ask what happens to the Republican party when Romney loses in November.  The contention among the tea party types after McCain lost was that he did so because he wasn't far enough to the right.  You know they really don't like or trust Romney, so what happens to the party when he loses?

And for you dyed-in-the-wool right wing ideologues (you know who you are!) please remember that Oklahoma is not representative of the rest of the country (and those of us on the left are profoundly grateful for that!)

[Conan71]

While Romney's freshman year may be instructive regarding the formation of his views and subsequent behavior, I don't think it has much relevance to his candidacy, Michael.  His stint at Bain and his refusal to release his tax returns are more recent and more revealing.  Tossing fellow Americans out of work while investing his money in foreign businesses has every appearance of destructive, self-serving capitalism.  If he doesn't release his tax returns, he's not forced to reveal whether he deliberately ruined American companies for his personal enrichment.  When he said that Detroit should be allowed to go out of business, did he say so because he owns large number of shares in foreign car companies?  Without the tax returns, we'll never know.

I think the Romneycare/Obamacare flip-flops are revealing, too, because it shows us that Mitt is far more concerned with his political career than with any personal integrity.  His state insurance scheme was the pattern for the Affordable Care Act, yet he repudiated it as a presidential candidate.  Then just recently, he said that he agreed with the central ideas - kids covered under their parent's policies, no denial for pre-existing conditions, and more - yet it turned out his only major disagreement involved paying for it.  

Every politician does this to some extent.  One of the maxims is "the large print giveth and the small print taketh away."  They're all in favor of good schools, good roads, a strong national defense, and on and on, yet Mitt is sketchy on the details of how to implement the grandiose ideas.  Some of his are laughably absurd, like the contention that larger class sizes would actually benefit children.  

Let's go a step further and ask what happens to the Republican party when Romney loses in November.  The contention among the tea party types after McCain lost was that he did so because he wasn't far enough to the right.  You know they really don't like or trust Romney, so what happens to the party when he loses?

And for you dyed-in-the-wool right wing ideologues (you know who you are!) please remember that Oklahoma is not representative of the rest of the country (and those of us on the left are profoundly grateful for that!)

I can respect your reasons to not think he's a great candidate.  Turning over 45 year old rocks on someone's prep or college career is petty, IMO.

I believe Romney has released his 2010 returns and an estimate of his 2011 returns.  How many years is customary for a Presidential candidate?

What will be the Democrat response when Obama loses in November, Ed? 

[Hoss]

I can respect your reasons to not think he's a great candidate.  Turning over 45 year old rocks on someone's prep or college career is petty, IMO.

I believe Romney has released his 2010 returns and an estimate of his 2011 returns.  How many years is customary for a Presidential candidate?

What will be the Democrat response when Obama loses in November, Ed? 

His father, in the 1968 campaign, released 12 years.

By comparison, the President has released every one since 2000.

[Red Arrow]

What will be the Democrat response when Obama loses in November, Ed? 

The usual response when a Democrat loses is that "we didn't get our message across" when in fact, they often have.

[Hoss]

The usual response when a Democrat loses is that "we didn't get our message across" when in fact, they often have.

Mitt better hurry up and get both his messages across for his platforms then.