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Mitt Romney - police impersonator

Started by RecycleMichael, July 12, 2012, 08:55:01 AM

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Ed W

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Quote from: Conan71 on July 12, 2012, 11:29:40 PM
I can respect your reasons to not think he's a great candidate.  Turning over 45 year old rocks on someone's prep or college career is petty, IMO.

I believe Romney has released his 2010 returns and an estimate of his 2011 returns.  How many years is customary for a Presidential candidate?

What will be the Democrat response when Obama loses in November, Ed?  ;)

When he was vetted as a possible running mate for McCain, he provided 20 years worth of tax returns, Conan.  His father's reasoning for providing 12 years worth was that a single year could be a fluke or a show piece.

Still, how many presidential candidates have Swiss bank accounts and investments in Bermuda and the Caymans?

Romney is supposed to blanket the airwaves tonight.  Let's see what he has to say.

...and as for our reaction in November when Obama wins, it will be something along the lines of "Thank God we dodged that train wreck" or "Thank God it's over and we can go back to normal for a couple of years."  Just sayin'.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Conan71

#46
Quote from: Ed W on July 13, 2012, 06:04:44 PM
When he was vetted as a possible running mate for McCain, he provided 20 years worth of tax returns, Conan.  His father's reasoning for providing 12 years worth was that a single year could be a fluke or a show piece.

Still, how many presidential candidates have Swiss bank accounts and investments in Bermuda and the Caymans?

Romney is supposed to blanket the airwaves tonight.  Let's see what he has to say.

...and as for our reaction in November when Obama wins, it will be something along the lines of "Thank God we dodged that train wreck" or "Thank God it's over and we can go back to normal for a couple of years."  Just sayin'.

Nah, I already emailed Debbie Wasserman Schulz the meme: "Romney bought the election!"

Actually, there was accusations of that floating around about former candidate Clinton in 2008.

Secondly, it's perfectly legal as US citizen to have a Swiss bank account and investments in the Caymans, Bermuda, or Katmandu.  If he's engaged in anything illegal with his finances, it's important to know. 

Would it make everyone happier if Romney paid 80% in taxes?  Would he appear more patriotic?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on July 13, 2012, 07:19:21 PM
Nah, I already emailed Debbie Wasserman Schulz the meme: "Romney bought the election!"

Actually, there was accusations of that floating around about former candidate Clinton in 2008.

Secondly, it's perfectly legal as US citizen to have a Swiss bank account and investments in the Caymans, Bermuda, or Katmandu.  If he's engaged in anything illegal with his finances, it's important to know.  

Would it make everyone happier if Romney paid 80% in taxes?  Would he appear more patriotic?

Should the public NOT be asking these questions?  It goes directly to his financial management style.  Why are the righties so up-in-arms about asking these questions?  They'll ask about Presidential BJs and Whitewater but somehow this is now out of bounds?

Aren't these the same types of questions his primary opponents were asking?

Conan71

Quote from: Hoss on July 13, 2012, 08:45:55 PM
Should the public NOT be asking these questions?  It goes directly to his financial management style.  Why are the righties so up-in-arms about asking these questions?  They'll ask about Presidential BJs and Whitewater but somehow this is now out of bounds?

Aren't these the same types of questions his primary opponents were asking?

Of course they should.  Pundits trying to create fear, hatred, and skepticism and the likes of hypocrites like Debbie Wasserman Schulz who engages in similar practices should butt out instead of trying to protect a weak candidate with noting but...well... see the first quarter of this sentence.

I'd look at shrewd personal and business finance planning as far preferable to someone who has no concept of what "credit limit" means nor when it's time to cut and run from failed policies and investments.  If he's worked within the tax and finance codes legally, as they are currently written, there is no issue.  If he's acted criminally, then yes, it's a problem. 

You need to realize, Romney is a very, very strong opponent in a weak economy.  That's why he's the nominee.  Gingrich and Santorum don't know squat about business.  They've been on the public dole longer than Obama.  The only hope in keeping Obama in office is to imply that Romney is A) a cultist or B) a criminal.  Look at the angle of every story and whisper campaign.  It's obvious.  If he wasn't a strong candidate, they wouldn't waste so much time in the op-ed pages on him.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on July 13, 2012, 09:31:29 PM
Of course they should.  Pundits trying to create fear, hatred, and skepticism and the likes of hypocrites like Debbie Wasserman Schulz who engages in similar practices should butt out instead of trying to protect a weak candidate with noting but...well... see the first quarter of this sentence.

I'd look at shrewd personal and business finance planning as far preferable to someone who has no concept of what "credit limit" means nor when it's time to cut and run from failed policies and investments.  If he's worked within the tax and finance codes legally, as they are currently written, there is no issue.  If he's acted criminally, then yes, it's a problem.  

You need to realize, Romney is a very, very strong opponent in a weak economy.  That's why he's the nominee.  Gingrich and Santorum don't know squat about business.  They've been on the public dole longer than Obama.  The only hope in keeping Obama in office is to imply that Romney is A) a cultist or B) a criminal.  Look at the angle of every story and whisper campaign.  It's obvious.  If he wasn't a strong candidate, they wouldn't waste so much time in the op-ed pages on him.

Looking at the numbers, Willard better start making his move or hope he has the October Surprise.  He's like the Republican version of Al Gore.  Except his wife is better looking.   ;)

What has sofar hurt him the most is that asinine following of the religious nuts on the right talking about contraception rights for women.  He's alienated that part of the dems/indies, I'm quite sure of that.  That's one of the main reasons I call him the "Etch A Sketch" candidate.  He catered to the hard-core right of the base to hold on to his campaign when it appeared multiple opponents were gaining ground that were using that platform to keep their hold in the deep South.  That, and his railing of ObomneyCare.

Red Arrow

Quote from: Conan71 on July 13, 2012, 07:19:21 PM
Would it make everyone happier if Romney paid 80% in taxes?  Would he appear more patriotic?

No, he needs to pay it all.  No one needs that much money.
 

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on July 13, 2012, 07:19:21 PM
Secondly, it's perfectly legal as US citizen to have a Swiss bank account and investments in the Caymans, Bermuda, or Katmandu.  If he's engaged in anything illegal with his finances, it's important to know. 

I'll have to look it up, but an absurd proportion of the Swiss accounts held by US citizens turned out to be used for hiding income and assets when we finally managed to get the Swiss to disclose account information after 9/11. But yes, having the account is of course perfectly legal (so long as you disclose its existence to the IRS if it's worth more than $10,000 USD or whatever the cutoff is).

Also, it's really weird how it's now considered unfair in some circles to examine Romney's professional record.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on July 13, 2012, 09:52:55 PM
I'll have to look it up, but an absurd proportion of the Swiss accounts held by US citizens turned out to be used for hiding income and assets when we finally managed to get the Swiss to disclose account information after 9/11. But yes, having the account is of course perfectly legal (so long as you disclose its existence to the IRS if it's worth more than $10,000 USD or whatever the cutoff is).

Also, it's really weird how it's now considered unfair in some circles to examine Romney's professional record.

Weird how it's considered unfair to examine Prez Obama's past.
 

nathanm

Quote from: Red Arrow on July 13, 2012, 09:55:04 PM
Weird how it's considered unfair to examine Prez Obama's past.

It's not. It's considered idiotic to continue claiming Obama isn't a natural born citizen.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Hoss

Quote from: Red Arrow on July 13, 2012, 09:55:04 PM
Weird how it's considered unfair to examine Prez Obama's past.

How?  It's out there for all to see.  Romney's?  Jury is out on that sofar.

Conan71

Quote from: Hoss on July 13, 2012, 09:56:19 PM
How?  It's out there for all to see.  Romney's?  Jury is out on that sofar.

I still don't recall a transcript from Columbia or Harvard being proffered.  Nor at what point Barry Soetoro became Barack Obama and at what point.  How about his outright lies about his nationality on publisher promo material to make him appear more exotic?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on July 13, 2012, 09:55:58 PM
It's not. It's considered idiotic to continue claiming Obama isn't a natural born citizen.

I don't question that he is qualified by citizenship to Prez.  Other, non-legal considerations yes.  Why does Obama hide his college records?

Edit:

Dang you Conan, you keep getting to the post before me.
 

RecycleMichael

I think dressing up as a police officer and buying a police light to go on top of your car is very weird. To actually pull people over is illegal and I would think a little dangerous. If I were a policeman and I found some kid playing cop, I would be pissed.

This wasn't some Halloween party costume. He actually got a real police uniform and then went around acting like a real cop.

That is some weird power trip behavior.
Power is nothing till you use it.

patric

Quote from: RecycleMichael on July 14, 2012, 08:22:03 AM
I think dressing up as a police officer and buying a police light to go on top of your car is very weird. To actually pull people over is illegal and I would think a little dangerous. If I were a policeman and I found some kid playing cop, I would be pissed.

This wasn't some Halloween party costume. He actually got a real police uniform and then went around acting like a real cop.

That is some weird power trip behavior.


What's disheartening is that someone compares that to a kid smoking a joint, and believes it evens the score.
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