You did not do that!

[Gaspar]

Gas, you're weird. Sort of an educated version of Sauer. No offense, just noting.

You don't have to hate Tulsa to know that with the conversations displayed here, we are in deep trouble. But if you look a little farther West you can confirm our miasma. OKC may be redneck and plain but they know how to get things done without relying on or perhaps in spite of, political dogma. It is paralyzing here.

My personal optimism is at a 10 year high actually. I have much to be thankful for and only wish I could share like Kaiser, Zarrow, Warrens et al. But I was not blessed with that type of success so I try to help everyone personally that I can with what I have learned. The Tulsans I know and love personally, think I am a positive, well informed, humorous, generous person but they will likely never make it onto this forum.

But enough about me. You're weird.

I accept that.  It is, after all, our differences that make us beautiful.

Live long and prosper. . . and remember, whatever your accomplish, you didn't build that!

[Teatownclown]

Absolutely hopeless. Weird philosophies defended as though they make sense. Redefining words, speeches and speaking to fit political dogma. Total lack of communication and empathy. You guys have it all and anyone who sees otherwise is the problem.

I once heard a biologist explain evolution as chaotic and without logic. She said it is not so much change based on survivability as much as it is random. But the change itself is inevitable.

You guys are Tulsa. And Tulsa is in deep Guido.

Now, this is good.

[nathanm]

I'm still waiting for someone to explain why no previous president has ever uttered such nonsense and how that doesn't come off as offensive to people who built their own business.

Because he clearly meant "you didn't build that alone," but the pantywaists are all in a tizzy anyway. As you were telling someone else, watch the speech, don't read the transcript. 

[TulsaRufnex]

Because he clearly meant "you didn't build that alone," but the pantywaists are all in a tizzy anyway. As you were telling someone else, watch the speech, don't read the transcript. 

+1
Not unlike "spread the wealth around"

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/18/fact-check-obama-said-he-would-spread-his-wealth-around/

Obama explained his tax plan during the roughly five-minute exchange - telling Wurzelbacher that the tax rate on the portion of his income that was more than $250,000 would be increased from 36 percent to 39 percent. But he also mentioned that his plan includes a 50 percent small-business tax credit for health care and a proposal to eliminate the capital-gains tax for small businesses that increase in value. Obama said his tax plan, which he said focuses on bigger breaks for people making lower incomes, would be good for the economy. "If you've got a plumbing business, you're going to be better off if you've got a whole bunch of customers who can afford to hire you," he said. "Right now, everybody's so pinched that business is bad for everybody. And I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

[heironymouspasparagus]

+1
Not unlike "spread the wealth around"

Reality is not a big thing when you are drunk on "The Script"....

[RecycleMichael]

"I don't care about the very poor"

Mitt Romney 2012

[Teatownclown]

"I don't care about the very poor"

Mitt Romney 2012

That was a spiritual reading, I believe.

[RecycleMichael]

All you have done is taken what Obama said out of context. That isn't fair.

It also wasn't fair to take Romney's quote out of context.

In Obama's and Romney's words, these were both probably just Freudian slips.  

[Conan71]

All you have done is taken what Obama said out of context. That isn't fair.

It also wasn't fair to take Romney's quote out of context.

In Obama's and Romney's words, these were both probably just Freudian slips.  

No, let's be clear.  Romney hates the poor.  And dogs.

[Teatownclown]

John Sinunu

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/romney-surrogate-gov-john-sununu-takes-turns-insulting-msnbc-anchors/

RMoney campain's bringing out the deadwood....

[Teatownclown]

No, let's be clear.  Romney hates the poor.  And dogs.

No Conan...he doesn't "hate" the poor...how can you hate something you do not know. He DOES NOT CARE about the poor.

Big diff.

[Gaspar]

All you have done is taken what Obama said out of context. That isn't fair.

It also wasn't fair to take Romney's quote out of context.

In Obama's and Romney's words, these were both probably just Freudian slips.  

You need to respect the president for his words in context:

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.  There was a great teacher somewhere in your life.  Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.  Somebody invested in roads and bridges.  If you've got a business -- you didn't build that.  Somebody else made that happen.  The Internet didn't get invented on its own.  Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

He said that.  You can spend the whole day trying to qualify what he meant, or what he was implying, but it does not change what he said.  In context, his goal was to illustrate how collective endeavor is more important than individual initiative.  Noting more. Nothing less.  He was not praising innovators, industrialists or successful entrepreneurs.  He was marginalizing their efforts in the shadow of government.

He was off prompter and spoke from his heart.  In context his words have the exact meaning he intended them to have.

[Breadburner]

People are poor because they want to be... Obama continues to make it a life-style....

[Hoss]

You need to respect the president for his words in context:

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.  There was a great teacher somewhere in your life.  Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.  Somebody invested in roads and bridges.  If you've got a business -- you didn't build that.  Somebody else made that happen.  The Internet didn't get invented on its own.  Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

He said that.  You can spend the whole day trying to qualify what he meant, or what he was implying, but it does not change what he said.  In context, his goal was to illustrate how collective endeavor is more important than individual initiative.  Noting more. Nothing less.  He was not praising innovators, industrialists or successful entrepreneurs.  He was marginalizing their efforts in the shadow of government.

He was off prompter and spoke from his heart.  In context his words have the exact meaning he intended them to have.

Once again, I give you Gaspar the Prognosticator.  Got lottery numbers too?

[nathanm]

He said that.  You can spend the whole day trying to qualify what he meant, or what he was implying, but it does not change what he said.  In context, his goal was to illustrate how collective endeavor is more important than individual initiative.  Noting more. Nothing less.  He was not praising innovators, industrialists or successful entrepreneurs.  He was marginalizing their efforts in the shadow of government.

Yet an equally reasonable interpretation is that he was merely that the collective efforts of society, helps people to find themselves in a position where their hard work and ingenuity will lead to a successful outcome. You hear what you want to hear. Given all the tax breaks that have been passed and other help the small business people and inventors have gotten since he took office, I don't think your interpretation is at all reasonable.

What I find very odd is that you insist that you know what goes through other people's heads when they speak. It may reflect upon you that you insist on giving Republicans a charitable reading and conversely insist on giving Democrats a very uncharitable reading. Weren't you making excuses for the comment about the goal of Congressional Republicans being to defeat the President?