You did not do that!

[guido911]

I wonder who represents the other business owners in his belief.

I share that same belief, and I have more solid ground. I do fairly well working from the guest room in my house.

[Conan71]

Wasn't that the point?

No, the government would like you to believe those dollars came from their benevolent fund.

[Townsend]

No, the government would like you to believe those dollars came from their benevolent fund.

The whole government?  Well Inhofe can jump and go spank himself for that reason too.

[Conan71]

Well Inhofe can jump and go spank himself for that reason too.

Okay, that's conjuring really uncomfortable leather man images.  Must be my intolerance for teh gheys.

[Townsend]

Okay, that's conjuring really uncomfortable leather man images.  Must be my intolerance for teh gheys.

It's Inhofe fantasy.

[nathanm]

I think this guy has taken Obama out of context again...  

I'm not surprised. If everyone you talk to says Obama said this thing, you'd probably believe it even if he didn't actually say that. Oh wait, you do!

What Ray Gaster doesn't get is that Wal-Mart, Cabela's and Bass Pro did not build their business without government help. They get lots of government help in redistributing the costs of government onto people like Ray. So yeah, I understand why he's upset, but he's mad at the sideshow keeping him distracted from the reality of redistribution in this country, not what's actually happening.

BTW guido, have you seen the Tax Policy Center's analysis of Romney's tax proposals? Looks like you get to take it in the shorts with the rest of us poor schlubs this time around. Sorry.

[Townsend]

have you seen the Tax Policy Center's analysis of Romney's tax proposals? Looks like you get to take it in the shorts with the rest of us poor schlubs this time around. Sorry.

You see how the GOP has done an about face?  They supported TPC until this and are now are saying they lean towards Obama.

[nathanm]

You see how the GOP has done an about face?  They supported TPC until this and are now are saying they lean towards Obama.

Not really any different than the AGW skeptic who managed to convince himself through actual science(!) that the temperature record is in fact correct who suddenly was never a "real" skeptic. If someone doesn't agree with the conservative point of view it's because they're a godless liberal, never because they looked at the facts and came to an unfavorable conclusion.

[guido911]

Okay, that's conjuring really uncomfortable leather man images.  Must be my intolerance for teh gheys.

That does it. You get to spend five hours at Chick Fil-A tomorrow mister. Not sure if the leather or self-spanking will be going on, but we can hope!!!!

[Red Arrow]

B, buh, but... He built that business right on a public thoroughfare that the government paid for with tax dollars paid by businesses and individuals

Nah, he's off to the side of the thoroughfare.

[Breadburner]

[nathanm]

And BB probably didn't make that.

[Townsend]

I'll keep the party going:

[Gaspar]

I'll keep the party going:

The liberal view of the world. 
By the grace of Government all blessings flow.

We choose to see things in a very different way.
Government is a product of the people, it is not the other way around. 


The true test will be, can we teach our children to see things as Mr. Gaster here does, or are they too be doomed to a world where they believe that their providence is government issued?

Townsend, do you dream to someday build something of your own, or do you intend to sit around and see what others have in store for you?

Mr. Gaster had to take risk, and make sacrifices.  He probably failed once or twice.  Perhaps he's failing now?  He could probably blame his failures on other people, perhaps he could blame the government?  Perhaps he could blame the competition, or the weather, or the economy?  He could blame the crisis in Europe, or he could even blame his customers.  Chances are though, that Mr. Gaster probably takes as much responsibility for his successes as he does for his failures, and he uses both to better HIMSELF and his business.  The government is not doing his purchasing, or inventory, or sales.  They are not managing his payroll, or the constant maintenance on his equipment or building, and Mr. Gaster is not waiting for them to. 

[Townsend]

Townsend, do you dream to someday build something of your own, or do you intend to sit around and see what others have in store for you?

I don't live in a dream world and think that everything happens due to only things I accomplish.

Mr. Gaster had to take risk, and make sacrifices.  He probably failed once or twice.  Perhaps he's failing now?  He could probably blame his failures on other people, perhaps he could blame the government?  Perhaps he could blame the competition, or the weather, or the economy?  He could blame the crisis in Europe, or he could even blame his customers.  Chances are though, that Mr. Gaster probably takes as much responsibility for his successes as he does for his failures, and he uses both to better HIMSELF and his business.  The government is not doing his purchasing, or inventory, or sales.  They are not managing his payroll, or the constant maintenance on his equipment or building, and Mr. Gaster is not waiting for them to. 

How do you know any of that?