You did not do that!

[AquaMan]

Take the blinders off Gas. Its both government and private enterprise that get things done. Nature and nurture. When you believe that its one or the other its just stupid. Speaking of stupid, I know of no liberals who think government alone creates business. I do however know many conservatives who think government has little or no role in prospering businesses.

I just spent three days of training with people who think like you. It was humorous because I could step back and listen to their insanity without having to carry the load it creates. They were primarily engineers, technicians and small town/rural citizens. They ranted some. Climate change, frack drilling, housing shortages, etc. Not so much educated in these areas as they were informed and indoctrinated. Oil companies do that to you.

For example, one presumed to be an expert on global warning because she had "done some research" on the topic. Its all natural stuff to her. Nothing to be concerned about. Another said he didn't care about earthquakes from fracking because to stop it would cost 345,000 jobs overnight.

[Townsend]

So anyway, unless you can just make up your side of the discussion a la Gaspar, reason holds that you succeed with hard work and using resources made available to you by others.

A successful person, in the United States, is not an island.

[Gaspar]

So anyway, unless you can just make up your side of the discussion a la Gaspar, reason holds that you succeed with hard work and using resources made available to you by others.

A successful person, in the United States, is not an island.

A successful person is never an island, unless he lives on an island, however the sacrifices, hard work, investment, initiative, innovation, and ingenuity of that individual far outweigh (by factors of magnitude) the role the GOV plays in their endeavors.   Furthermore, it is the DUTY of our leaders to recognize the contributions of the individual.  The absence of this is tyranny. 

When a government attempts to inject itself into the success of a free citizen, is when the slow slouch towards tyranny is most visible.  It is expected from low-level government officials who wish to feel somehow more empowered by laying claim to the industries they regulate or the individuals they police, but not from a president, who should be the representative of  American ideals.  It's just shameful, disrespectful, and serves no one.  It is government attempting to defeat the very instrument of it's creation, the people.


When freedom prevails, the ingenuity and inventiveness of people creates incredible wealth. This is the source of the natural improvement of the human condition. – Brian S. Wesbury

Simple, clear purpose and principles give rise to complex, intelligent behavior. Complex rules and regulations give rise to simple, stupid behavior. – Dee Hock

People who create things nowadays can expect to be prosecuted by highly moralistic people who are incapable of creating anything. There is no way to measure the chilling effect on innovation that results from the threats of taxation, regulation and prosecution against anything that succeeds. – Joseph Sobran 

[AquaMan]

No communication happening here Townsend. Just a valve from some obscure dogma pipeline opening and closing randomly.

[Townsend]

No communication happening here Townsend. Just a valve from some obscure dogma pipeline opening and closing randomly.

I've recognized the issue.

[Gaspar]

No communication happening here Townsend. Just a valve from some obscure dogma pipeline opening and closing randomly.

Sorry if my words are blasphemy to you.  Just trying to disinfect.  Not that I expect it to work.  

[AquaMan]

Sorry if my words are blasphemy to you.  Just trying to disinfect. (deflect and distract) Not that I expect it to work.  

[guido911]

[Teatownclown]

[Gaspar]

[Teatownclown]

Gassious, pathetic ad ....Fred Davis?

[heironymouspasparagus]

Novel idea for Gaspar...and anyone else who wants to play...start with the actual text and context of what Obama said instead of the RWRE stillbirth from Murdoch and Company...

Quote;
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.


This that's wrong, huh?  Well, so much for reality in RW world....

[Red Arrow]

Novel idea for Gaspar...and anyone else who wants to play...start with the actual text and context of what Obama said instead of the RWRE stillbirth from Murdoch and Company...

Quote;
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.

I looked around several grammar sites for proper use of pronouns.  Relative pronouns (such as "that") are used to tie phrases and clauses together.  I didn't see any examples of relative pronouns crossing to another sentence.  The antecedent for the relative pronoun "that" (in "you didn't build that") really should be in the same sentence.

President Obama is a lawyer.  I have always thought that lawyers were trained to use language clearly, or at least to their benefit.  That is obviously not the case here. (Intentional ambiguity.)

[Gaspar]

I looked around several grammar sites for proper use of pronouns.  Relative pronouns (such as "that") are used to tie phrases and clauses together.  I didn't see any examples of relative pronouns crossing to another sentence.  The antecedent for the relative pronoun "that" (in "you didn't build that") really should be in the same sentence.

President Obama is a lawyer.  I have always thought that lawyers were trained to use language clearly, or at least to their benefit.  That is obviously not the case here. (Intentional ambiguity.)

He misspoke.

[erfalf]

He misspoke.

In other words, he said what he really thought.

I've read what he actually said in context, and it really doesn't make me feel all that much better about it.