OFF THE CLIFF!

[Gaspar]

Fixed it.

Earth to Nathan... come in Nathan.

Yesterday the president consulted with Al Sharpton on tax increases at the White House.  Sharpton must be a tax expert after all the tax evasion he's been indicted for.
It's going to be four more years of facepalm.

[nathanm]

Fixed it.

You have a problem with paying promised benefits to Medicare and Social Security beneficiaries?

Earth to Nathan... come in Nathan.

It makes it hard to have a conversation when you can't even acknowledge that Obama has regularly adopted a conciliatory stance towards the Republicans and has often pissed off the left wing of his party as a result. You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

[Hoss]

You have a problem with paying promised benefits to Medicare and Social Security beneficiaries?

It makes it hard to have a conversation when you can't even acknowledge that Obama has regularly adopted a conciliatory stance towards the Republicans and has often pissed off the left wing of his party as a result. You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

You do remember who it is you're talking to, right?

[Red Arrow]

You have a problem with paying promised benefits to Medicare and Social Security beneficiaries?

Got it. There are no expenditures except Defense and Medicare/Social Security.   Don't even ask about the frustrations of finding a new Primary Care Physician for my mom due to insurance changes.

It makes it hard to have a conversation when you can't even acknowledge that Obama has regularly adopted a conciliatory stance towards the Republicans and has often pissed off the left wing of his party as a result. You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

It makes it hard to have a conversation when you cannot even acknowledge the arrogance and condescending nature of President Obama and the fact that he is just as obstinate as the right wingers on too many items. You too are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.   And that's the facts Jack. (Or Bucko if you prefer.)

[Townsend]

arrogance and condescending nature of President Obama

How many presidents have you met that haven't been arrogant or condescending?

[Red Arrow]

How many presidents have you met that haven't been arrogant or condescending?

Obama is making an art-form of being both.

I have never personally met any of the Presidents of the USA.

[Gaspar]

Obama is making an art-form of being both.

I have never personally met any of the Presidents of the USA.

I saw them in concert once.

[Hoss]

I saw them in concert once.

DAMMIT!  I just had "Peaches" out of my head. You do this on purpose, you southie!



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[nathanm]

Got it. There are no expenditures except Defense and Medicare/Social Security.

Those together make up almost 2/3rds of the total budget. Somewhat over if you add the money that gets spent on defense at agencies other than the DoD. (nuclear weapons programs at DOE are a large part of that)

It makes it hard to have a conversation when you cannot even acknowledge the arrogance and condescending nature of President Obama and the fact that he is just as obstinate as the right wingers on too many items. You too are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.   And that's the facts Jack. (Or Bucko if you prefer.)

Yep, the guy that has given Republicans their spending cuts and tax cuts, even if not in amounts as great as they would prefer, is such an obstinate fellow. Maybe you're confusing Obama with the Congressional Democrats?

[Red Arrow]

Yep, the guy that has given Republicans their spending cuts and tax cuts, even if not in amounts as great as they would prefer, is such an obstinate fellow. Maybe you're confusing Obama with the Congressional Democrats?

A President that wants the wealthy to pay more but only by increased marginal rates and will not accept any other method is obstinate.  Take the fingernail polish off your glasses lenses.  Congressional Democrats are another group just as terrible as the extreme right but obviously on the other side.

[nathanm]

A President that wants the wealthy to pay more but only by increased marginal rates and will not accept any other method is obstinate.

No more obstinate than the Republicans refusing to entertain the thought of higher rates on the top end income of top earners. It's not as if he's calling for a minimum tax rate like some are, so they still get the benefit of continuing the lower rates on income below $250,000. As we went over during the campaign when we were talking about the Ryan plan, there simply aren't enough loopholes to close to make up even half the deficit.

[TulsaRufnex]

It makes it hard to have a conversation when you cannot even acknowledge the arrogance and condescending nature of President Obama and the fact that he is just as obstinate as the right wingers on too many items. You too are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.   And that's the facts Jack. (Or Bucko if you prefer.)

So, having a conversation with YOU means I have to acknowledge the "arrogance and condescending nature of President Obama?"

That explains a lot.   

[Red Arrow]

No more obstinate than the Republicans refusing to entertain the thought of higher rates on the top end income of top earners. It's not as if he's calling for a minimum tax rate like some are, so they still get the benefit of continuing the lower rates on income below $250,000. As we went over during the campaign when we were talking about the Ryan plan, there simply aren't enough loopholes to close to make up even half the deficit.

And do you think raising the marginal rates on those over $250,000 to the Clinton rates is going to cover more than closing loopholes?  I don't.  I saw a clip recently of Obama (words from his mouth) in 2011(?) calling for closing loopholes rather than raising the marginal rates.  What a flip-flop.  And now the lemmings are following.   In the long run, you and I are going to end up paying more.  Maybe Townsend won't until he gets his degree and a decent job.   I believe in the past you said you wouldn't mind paying 30%.  I don't remember if that was 30% of your AGI or the marginal rate.  I have certain savings goals so that some day I can retire.  If my taxes go up much (approximately 16% of my AGI last year for Federal Income Tax), I will be forced to stop some of my spending.  I'm talking about little things that add up.  Last weekend I bought a $15 round-over bit for a router because I didn't like the radius of the one my brother has.  That kind of stuff will end.  

On the other hand, maybe I can make a case that flying is required for my mental balance and get the Federal Government to pay for my Avgas.

My full SS retirement begins at age 66.  I'm OK with that.  Maybe it needs to be increased gradually even more.

[Hoss]

And do you think raising the marginal rates on those over $250,000 to the Clinton rates is going to cover more than closing loopholes?  I don't.  I saw a clip recently of Obama (words from his mouth) in 2011(?) calling for closing loopholes rather than raising the marginal rates.  What a flip-flop.  And now the lemmings are following.   In the long run, you and I are going to end up paying more.  Maybe Townsend won't until he gets his degree and a decent job.   I believe in the past you said you wouldn't mind paying 30%.  I don't remember if that was 30% of your AGI or the marginal rate.  I have certain savings goals so that some day I can retire.  If my taxes go up much (approximately 16% of my AGI last year for Federal Income Tax), I will be forced to stop some of my spending.  I'm talking about little things that add up.  Last weekend I bought a $15 round-over bit for a router because I didn't like the radius of the one my brother has.  That kind of stuff will end.  

On the other hand, maybe I can make a case that flying is required for my mental balance and get the Federal Government to pay for my Avgas.

My full SS retirement begins at age 66.  I'm OK with that.  Maybe it needs to be increased gradually even more.

Since YOUR opinion is gold, we'll all abide by it.

[Red Arrow]

So, having a conversation with YOU means I have to acknowledge the "arrogance and condescending nature of President Obama?"
That explains a lot.    

Whew, no more responses from you.  That was easy.  Staples was right about the easy button.

edit:

I forgot to say that yes, you "have to acknowledge the "arrogance and condescending nature of President Obama?""  But only you.  No one else, because you are the only one arrogant enough to say it first.