OFF THE CLIFF!

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Since YOUR opinion is gold, we'll all abide by it.

All of the cuts, from both sides, involve things like 10 years.  Nothing is going to happen overnight or even in a couple of years.  When I hear things like $1 Trillion in cuts or tax increases and then hear 10 years I quickly divide by 10 and say we are getting no where.

I am glad you finally recognize the superior nature of my opinion.  It's about time.   

[Hoss]

Whew, no more responses from you.  That was easy.  Staples was right about the easy button.

And right wingers are so predictable, if nothing else.  If it's good for you all, it MUST be good for everyone.

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And right wingers are so predictable, if nothing else.  If it's good for you all, it MUST be good for everyone.

You are learning.  I didn't think that was possible.  There is hope for you yet, but not much.  but  not 

Just for you, I'm going to lose my sense of humor for a few milliseconds and say that the left wingers have the same attitude.  End of milliseconds.

[TulsaRufnex]

Whew, no more responses from you.  That was easy.  Staples was right about the easy button.

edit:

I forgot to say that yes, you "have to acknowledge the "arrogance and condescending nature of President Obama?""  But only you.  No one else, because you are the only one arrogant enough to say it first.

Yeah, that made sense.  Thanks for the clarification.  
Oh... and you don't like soccer... which didn't seem to keep you from responding to everything I post, soccer related or not...

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Yeah, that made sense.  Thanks for the clarification.  
Oh... and you don't like soccer... which didn't seem to keep you from responding to everything I post, soccer related or not...

I usually stay away from soccer because I don't care about it.  Please find a negative post from me about soccer other than to say I don't care one way or the other about it.

[nathanm]

If my taxes go up much (approximately 16% of my AGI last year for Federal Income Tax), I will be forced to stop some of my spending.

Unless most of your income is from investments to get that rate, your taxes won't go up at all if Obama actually gets his way. I recently mentioned how it wouldn't benefit the Republicans to take away that threat, though. That's the hold up.

And yeah, you will have to cut out a couple of router bits a month if you have an AGI of $50,000 and Congress fails to pass a bill with the stuff that both Democrats and (most) Republicans agree on.

[carltonplace]

Tom Colburn just signed on to support a balanced approach with cuts, entitlement reform and increased taxes on the top two percent with a small business caveat.

[Townsend]

Tom Colburn just signed on to support a balanced approach with cuts, entitlement reform and increased taxes on the top two percent with a small business caveat.

Republican Senator Tom Coburn backs tax rate hike on wealthy

http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/political/republican-senator-tom-coburn-backs-tax-rate-hike-on-wealthy

(CNN) -- In a significant development in the fiscal cliff standoff, Republican Sen. Tom Coburn, a leading deficit hawk, said Wednesday he would support higher tax rates on wealthier Americans as part of a broader deal with President Barack Obama and congressional Democrats to avoid the crisis.

"I know we have to raise revenue," the senator from Oklahoma told MSNBC. "I don't really care which way we do it. Actually, I would rather see rates go up than do it the other way, because it gives us a greater chance to reform the tax code and broaden the base in the future."

Coburn, who served on the Simpson-Bowles fiscal commission and participated in the Gang of Six deficit talks, was one of the first Republicans a couple of years to embrace raising revenue to reduce the deficit. At that time, he wanted to do it through reforming the tax code by eliminating loopholes and deductions that he argued favored the rich and powerful. But now he appears to be the first GOP senator to say publicly he would back increasing the tax rates on the wealthy, as long as that increase is coupled with spending cuts and entitlement reforms.

Coburn thinks its better to raise rates now, which will generate the money needed to get beyond the fiscal cliff and then negotiate broad reforms to the tax code - such as eliminating deductions and loopholes - that both Republicans and Democrats argue is necessary.

He is worried that if some reforms are made now as part of the fiscal cliff talks, Congress might never return to the table to do comprehensive reform.
Not surprisingly, Democrats seized on Coburn's unexpected new position.

"Senator Coburn is an unquestioned conservative," said Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-New York, in a news release. "If he doesn't provide cover for the Republicans to finally shift on tax rates, I don't know who does."
"Welcome to the Club," read a news release issued by House Democrats.


Read more: http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/political/republican-senator-tom-coburn-backs-tax-rate-hike-on-wealthy#ixzz2EHnFeley

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Unless most of your income is from investments to get that rate, your taxes won't go up at all if Obama actually gets his way. I recently mentioned how it wouldn't benefit the Republicans to take away that threat, though. That's the hold up.

And yeah, you will have to cut out a couple of router bits a month if you have an AGI of $50,000 and Congress fails to pass a bill with the stuff that both Democrats and (most) Republicans agree on.

You must have missed the part where I said that eventually increased taxes will get down to you and me.  Right now, if Obama gets his way, you are correct.  I am looking a little further on.  The router bit was just a for-example.  It might get down to avgas too.

[Townsend]

Turn the lights out kids, another GOP leader says to capitulate...

Ann Coulter Says GOP Should Give In To Obama On Taxes: 'We Lost The Election'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/06/ann-coulter-gop-taxes-obama-hannity_n_2249545.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

Ann Coulter shocked Sean Hannity on Wednesday when she conceded that she thinks Republicans should let tax rates for the rich go up.

House Republicans are currently battling President Obama over whether or not to hike taxes on the top 2 percent of earners in the negotiations over the so-called "fiscal cliff."

After Coulter started to say that Republicans should concede on taxes on the very rich, Hannity wondered why the House didn't just pass a bill extending the Bush tax cuts for everyone.

"OK fine, let's do that, but in the end, at some point, if the Bush tax cuts are repealed and everyone's taxes go up, I promise you Republicans will get blamed for it," she said. "It doesn't mean you cave on everything, but there are some things Republicans do that feed into what the media is telling America about Republicans."

"So are you saying that, for PR purposes, that they should give in to Obama on the tax rate?" Hannity asked.

"Not exactly, I--" Coulter said, before stopping herself and saying, "Well, yeah, I guess I am."

"You're saying capitulate to Obama?" Hannity stammered. "We don't have a revenue problem, Ann."

"We lost the election, Sean!" Coulter replied.

Other right-wing pundits, such as Bill Kristol, have echoed Coulter's argument. Kristol famously said that it wouldn't "kill the country" if taxes on millionaires went up.

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Turn the lights out kids, another GOP leader says to capitulate...
Ann Coulter Says GOP Should Give In To Obama On Taxes: 'We Lost The Election'

Here's another thought for you.

Do what the Democrats want.  If it works fine.  If it doesn't, Oh well.  At least the Democrats will get the responsibility, good or bad, for their program.

[Townsend]

Here's another thought for you.

Do what the Democrats want.  If it works fine.  If it doesn't, Oh well.  At least the Democrats will get the responsibility, good or bad, for their program.

Well yes, that is another thought.

I'd really have a hard time siding with anyone if it wasn't for all the "help, there's a war on Christmas, my version of family values, I hate other faiths, etc." going on in the socially conservative screams.  They've really messed things up for their side.

[Gaspar]

Oh, what a difference a year makes.  Remember this old ditty?

The one gift President Obama will certainly be remembered for is the ability to CHANGE without having to worry about his subjects noticing.

[Teatownclown]

^^^^ Gaspar, you listen to talk radio on KRMG far too much. Find new talking points. Look forward not back....something might be gaining on you. Leave the nuts that got us here behind.

[guido911]

Just go over the damned cliff already. I'm ready for tax increases for everyone. So is the Screamer, since we are posting Coulter comments:

http://www.mrctv.org/node/118889

If every one pays more, great.