OFF THE CLIFF!

[guido911]

I didn't see any complaints about the link.  Just that it was so hateful as to be depressing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29BoqCMRBFk

[Teatownclown]

The word you were searching for instead of "holiday" is "Christmas". Your skin is that much more thicker now. 

Bring back the lord's prayer!
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/04/1397651/indiana-lawmaker-wants-to-give-schools-the-power-to-mandate-prayer-in-classrooms/

End the war on classrooms!

[Townsend]

Bring back the lord's prayer!
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/04/1397651/indiana-lawmaker-wants-to-give-schools-the-power-to-mandate-prayer-in-classrooms/

What if the instructor is a Satanist?  Those prayers would be mandated?

[Teatownclown]

What if the instructor is a Satanist?  Those prayers would be mandated?

He'd be struck dead not by an automatic fire arm but the arm of God!

[Townsend]

He'd be struck dead not by an automatic fire arm but the arm of God!

On the other occasions would the kids need to learn the Aramaic version?

[TulsaRufnex]

It's "skin in the game" people. Something to think about for all you folks pissed off that your paying more in taxes...

We all were, whether you voted last election cycle or not. That, or you are an evil rich person (meaning you have a job and pay payroll taxes).

That's some pretty wicked spin...

The only way conservatives can come up with the "47%" figure for those who don't pay "federal taxes" is to leave out the working poor who have always had payroll taxes withheld from every paycheck... something about having your cake and eating it too seems apropos here...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/31/obamas-wrong-this-cliff-deal-still-raises-taxes-on-the-middle-class/

...the paychecks for more than 160 million Americans will be 2 percent smaller starting in January, as the payroll tax will jump from 4.2 percent to 6.2 percent. And a huge number of those hit will be middle class or working poor (Two-thirds of those in the bottom 20 percent would be affected by a payroll tax hike.).

Obama had proposed extending the payroll tax holiday, or something similar, in the first phase of the negotiations. But he dropped that demand weeks ago as his stimulus proposals shrunk rapidly. He's not revisited the idea since then, and Republicans didn't want it in there in the first place.

So whether this particular deal passes or not, it's basically a given that the payroll tax holiday is going away, which means a $115 billion fiscal contraction this year directly from the pocketbooks of ordinary Americans. To put that in perspective, the sequester cuts that are so dreaded would cut about $110 billion this year — more or less the same amount. While the fiscal cliff deal will save middle-class families an extra $2,000 in tax pain by extending the Bush tax cuts, anyone who earns $50,000 a year will still be hit with a $1,000 higher payroll tax burden.

Having a job and seeing your payroll taxes increase means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to Republicans or charlatans like Grover Norquist who don't get their big political contributions from those deadbeats anyway... the very same earned income tax credits that Republicans once touted have now become conservative chattering class talking points to stereotype the TRUE MIDDLE CLASS in this country as "takers," not "makers.".... instead, fake Tea Party Republicans are busy working on behalf of a mythical "middle-class" who make over $250k per year and want to use the social security surplus (taxed only on their earnings of up to $110k) for generic "deficit reduction"... while simultaneously claiming payroll taxes don't count as federal taxes and crying like little pampered babies about the need for "entitlement reform."

...and the usual suspects will continue to pigeon-hole most full time retail, janitors, fast-food workers, working single mothers, full time college students, Vietnam vets on SSI disability benefits, retirees.... as people who don't have "skin in the game".... ooohh, a flow chart...

[Red Arrow]

The only way conservatives can come up with the "47%" figure for those who don't pay "federal taxes" is to leave out the working poor who have always had payroll taxes withheld from every paycheck... something about having your cake and eating it too seems apropos here...

 Mitt Romney, "47 percent," May 17
"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what ... who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims. ... These are people who pay no income tax. ... and so my job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/12/10/romneys-47-comment-named-quote-of-the-year/

[TulsaRufnex]

Mitt Romney, "47 percent," May 17
"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what ... who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims. ... These are people who pay no income tax. ... and so my job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/12/10/romneys-47-comment-named-quote-of-the-year/

1.  A big chunk of that "47 percent" voted for Romney.
2.  Most of the "people who pay no income tax" are folks who either/both paid income tax in previous years or will be paying federal income tax in the future.
3.  The working poor who paid no income tax due to the earned income tax credit are far more likely than other income groups to have kids who opt to join the military.
4.  Many of the working "47 percent" who aren't retired or on SSI are unaware of their federal tax status, since any tax refund check from their payroll deductions will not include FICA or medicaid.  They also pay regressive sales taxes and are subject to state, local and county taxes as well.  They don't need Mitt Romney to lecture them on personal responsibility.  
5.  To imply that 47% of the country is unwilling to take personal responsibility and care for their lives is a slap in the face; especially when it comes from a patrician politico who knows NOTHING about the personal responsibility required from someone who punches a time clock every day and makes less than $10 per hour.

---I'll agree to a flat tax the day our government comes to the conclusion that we need a salary cap... trade a few CEO's making 200x the pay of their workers to Japan or India for their lower paid, higher performing CEO's... and a couple of first round draft pics...  

[Red Arrow]

1.  A big chunk of that "47 percent" voted for Romney.
2.  Most of the "people who pay no income tax" are folks who either/both paid income tax in previous years or will be paying federal income tax in the future.
3.  The working poor who paid no income tax due to the earned income tax credit are far more likely than other income groups to have kids who opt to join the military.
4.  Many of the working "47 percent" who aren't retired or on SSI are unaware of their federal tax status, since any tax refund check from their payroll deductions will not include FICA or medicaid.  They also pay regressive sales taxes and are subject to state, local and county taxes as well.  They don't need Mitt Romney to lecture them on personal responsibility.  
5.  To imply that 47% of the country is unwilling to take personal responsibility and care for their lives is a slap in the face; especially when it comes from a patrician politico who knows NOTHING about the personal responsibility required from someone who punches a time clock every day and makes less than $10 per hour.

---I'll agree to a flat tax the day our government comes to the conclusion that we need a salary cap... trade a few CEO's making 200x the pay of their workers to Japan or India for their lower paid, higher performing CEO's... and a couple of first round draft pics...  

I was just wondering if you understand the difference between "who don't pay "federal taxes"" and "who pay no income tax".

[guido911]

A less "hateful" website for the thin skinned folks worried about tone and people upset their paychecks are smaller.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/6/obama-supporters-shocked-angry-new-tax-increases/

[Teatownclown]

A less "hateful" website for the thin skinned folks worried about tone and people upset their paychecks are smaller.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/6/obama-supporters-shocked-angry-new-tax-increases/

Sheep alert!

[Gaspar]

Just calculated my payroll change. The elimination of the payroll benefit means $227 less a month to my paycheck.  That's a car payment, or electric bill, or grocery bill, or gas for the cars.

OMG! I just realized that's about 3 times what we pay for birth control.

Curious how this affects female law students?



Hey, it was temporary, and served its purpose for the election.  Everyone back on your heads!

[Red Arrow]

Just calculated my payroll change. The elimination of the payroll benefit means $227 less a month to my paycheck.  That's a car payment, or electric bill, or grocery bill, or gas for the cars.
OMG! I just realized that's about 3 times what we pay for birth control.

You need to get a lower paying job.   

[Gaspar]

You need to get a lower paying job.  

Need the money, especially now that we're probably going to end up pregnant again since this cuts into our birth control budget.

Poor Sandra was only pulling 60K a year, the hike equals $1,200 off her yearly pay, and you know she can't afford to go without, else she be walkin round the office all clappy with a sad face.

Edit: I mean if her schedule allows for vertical time.

[RecycleMichael]

I am going to Washington DC this summer to show my kids where my money went.