Tax returns are a deal breaker

[nathanm]

The pretty big difference that you ignore being that Obama showed his, despite having proven to the satisfaction of the vast majority of Secretaries of State that he was indeed qualified to be on the ballot. He's got nothing to worry about with releasing pre-2009 returns. They're done, the IRS can't come after him even if it was proven that he evaded a billion dollars in tax. (Assuming he filed) So I'm not sure what exactly you think moveon.org would be filing (or what they have to do with anything beyond being a go-to boogeyman for you).

[Conan71]

The pretty big difference that you ignore being that Obama showed his, despite having proven to the satisfaction of the vast majority of Secretaries of State that he was indeed qualified to be on the ballot. He's got nothing to worry about with releasing pre-2009 returns. They're done, the IRS can't come after him even if it was proven that he evaded a billion dollars in tax. (Assuming he filed) So I'm not sure what exactly you think moveon.org would be filing (or what they have to do with anything beyond being a go-to boogeyman for you).

Uh, in case you missed it, moveon was Tweeting again about Romney being a felon in regards to when he gave up any control on the day to day operations at Bain.  Don't think they and other groups running interference for the Obama campaign won't try it.

Move On points out that "substantial evidence contradicts Romney's claim that he was not "active" in Bain Capital in "any" way after 1999." They add, "Substantial evidence that Mitt Romney may have committed a felony by lying on his financial disclosure forms justifies a criminal investigation—that's the conclusion of a legal analysis released today by MoveOn.org Political Action."

http://www.politicususa.com/moveon-files-complaint-doj-romney-retroactive-retirement-claims.html

And not entirely accurate on the three year statute, there is a six year SOL on certain offenses.  Read section 6531, title 26, Clavin.

[nathanm]

Hmm, you're right. Six years it is, if he under reported by 25% or more, presuming he's not continuing to under report income, in which case the SoL hasn't started to run yet. Consider me corrected.

And moveon tweeted. Wow. Such a thorn in Romney's side, those tweets. 

[Conan71]

Hmm, you're right. Six years it is, if he under reported by 25% or more, presuming he's not continuing to under report income, in which case the SoL hasn't started to run yet. Consider me corrected.

And moveon tweeted. Wow. Such a thorn in Romney's side, those tweets. 

It is a big deal.  It's a baseless whisper campaign like Harry Reid telling a blatant lie about Romney not paying taxes for ten years.  It's gutter Chicago politics at it's worst.  The Obama camp can't talk about the real issues because he's failed at them, so there is an orchestrated whisper campaign calling Romney a felon.  They know filing spurious claims with the DOJ will get a headline and many voters don't read or listen to anything after the salacious claim that makes it into the headline.

[nathanm]

We don't know that's a blatant lie or not. The Romney campaign has worded their statements very carefully to say that he "owed" tax, not "paid" tax, and refused to clarify when journalists asked about it. For example, it's possible that in 2009 he owed 14% or whatever on his income (what a taker, getting paid for doing nothing!) but paid zero because of offsetting losses. I don't really care, TBH, but I do find the double standard among those who accused Obama of being born in Kenya pretty funny.

[erfalf]

Moveon is not just tweeting, they are pleading with the justice department to investigate.

http://front.moveon.org/legal-analysis-outlines-potential-crime-in-mitt-romneys-financial-disclosures/

It is just like the looney in Arizona going after Obama.
It does have nothing to do with the election.

You guys are so quick to point out insanity on the right, but couldn't see it for the light of day on the left.

[nathanm]

If they are in fact talking to the Justice Department about it, shame on them. (Unless they have nonpublic evidence)

[Hoss]

Moveon is not just tweeting, they are pleading with the justice department to investigate.

http://front.moveon.org/legal-analysis-outlines-potential-crime-in-mitt-romneys-financial-disclosures/

It is just like the looney in Arizona going after Obama.
It does have nothing to do with the election.

You guys are so quick to point out insanity on the right, but couldn't see it for the light of day on the left.

That may be because the insanity on the right has a far higher ratio than on the left. Drowned our in the noise, as it were.

Sent from my GNex with fat fingers

[Red Arrow]

Well, contrast that with what Romney has released regarding his pre-2010 returns:



See the difference?

First off, your image is blocked here at work.

Secondly, I don't care what the image is.  The difference is that the birthers are/were obsessed with Obama's birth certificate.  You, and others, are obsessed with Romney's tax returns.  It's really that simple.  There are a lot of attempts at justification on both sides of what I consider non-issues.

[nathanm]

Obsessed? No. I don't really give a smile if he releases them or not, it's not going to change my mind one way or the other. However, I think it's completely unreasonable to compare people who want to see his tax returns to birthers.

(Sorry your work doesn't like imgur..try again in a sec)

[Red Arrow]

That may be because the insanity on the right has a far higher ratio than on the left. Drowned our in the noise, as it were.

The intensity and "quality" of the insanity on the left requires at least two or three loons on the right for each one on the left to achieve balance.

[Red Arrow]

Obsessed? No. I don't really give a smile if he releases them or not,

You sure seem to make a big deal out of it then.

it's not going to change my mind one way or the other.

I expected as much.

However, I think it's completely unreasonable to compare people who want to see his tax returns to birthers.

We will just have to disagree.  This whole tax deal is and the birther deal was pretty much partisan.  There were a few crossovers but mostly it's along party lines.

[nathanm]

You sure seem to make a big deal out of it then.

I make a big deal out of some people being allowed to pay tax at a rate half of what other people with lower incomes do, yes.

[erfalf]

The taxers and birthers are looking for the silver bullet that will eliminate the competition. Obama is extremely good at this. Outside of '08 , he used the same protocol in each of his prior elections.

[Hoss]

The taxers and birthers are looking for the silver bullet that will eliminate the competition. Obama is extremely good at this. Outside of '08 , he used the same protocol in each of his prior elections.

I think Mitt is the silver bullet this election.  At least his mouth is....