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Started by DolfanBob, August 07, 2012, 02:36:16 PM

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swake

Quote from: erfalf on August 10, 2012, 11:22:04 AM
Personally I hope against Ryan. Don't get me wrong I think Ryan is the kind of guy he needs, but I think he is far more effective as a congressmen than as a VP. Romney and Ryan are cut from the same mold in that they are not afraid to make the tough decision. Romney is willing to close down companies that should be closed down and Ryan is willing to make cuts that are extremely unpopular because they need to be cut.

You really need to read up on how companies like Bain make money. It's not how you think they do. 

RecycleMichael

I think it will be Paul Ryan.

Money is everything with these national republicans. They want to dramatically reduce government (except for military) spending and have no problem killing programs as long as they cut budgets.

Paul is the perfect guy to explain how they want to destroy America.
Power is nothing till you use it.

TulsaRufnex

"Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves."
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nathanm

Quote from: RecycleMichael on August 10, 2012, 03:40:20 PM
They want to dramatically reduce government (except for military) spending and have no problem killing programs as long as they cut budgets.

Cutting the size of government is just an excuse for these guys. It's all about reducing taxes on their donors and cutting law enforcement as it applies to their donors. They don't even bother to make the numbers add up because they know that few people will bother to check and those that do will be dismissed as left wingers, no matter their political persuasion.

As you noted, they are perfectly happy with larger government, as long as it's larger in the areas they want it to be larger in. It's perfectly OK to run deficits, as long as those deficits are funding their donors. They couldn't possibly be more transparent about it.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

TulsaRufnex

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-mitt-romney-says-hell-announce-running-mate-saturday-morning-20120810,0,4049428.story

I'm sure they'll announce it right in the middle of the Mexico-Brasil gold medal game.... damn you Romney...
"Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves."
― Brendan Behan  http://www.tulsaroughnecks.com

TulsaRufnex

"Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves."
― Brendan Behan  http://www.tulsaroughnecks.com

guido911

Tweet I just saw:

QuoteRight now, Obama is watching video of Paul Ryan dismantling Tim Geithner, while Joe Biden asks for help assembling his Happy Meal toy.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Ed W

Quote from: RecycleMichael on August 10, 2012, 03:40:20 PM
I think it will be Paul Ryan.

Money is everything with these national republicans. They want to dramatically reduce government (except for military) spending and have no problem killing programs as long as they cut budgets.

Paul is the perfect guy to explain how they want to destroy America.

The Romney camp is going to announce that Paul Ryan is their pick for VP later today, according to news reports.  Good pick, Michael!

I don't know a lot about him, other than he's a libertarian like his father and that his draconian budget ideas will appeal to the tea party types that don't really trust Romney.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Townsend

He introduced Ryan as the next president.  Then he said he makes mistakes.  Not a shining moment for the intro.

Red Arrow

Quote from: Townsend on August 11, 2012, 10:29:41 AM
He introduced Ryan as the next president.  Then he said he makes mistakes.  Not a shining moment for the intro.

I thought I heard him say that.  The TV was on but I wasn't really paying attention.

He must have been off teleprompter.   :D
 

guido911

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Quote from: Townsend on August 11, 2012, 10:29:41 AM
He introduced Ryan as the next president.  Then he said he makes mistakes.  Not a shining moment for the intro.

Yeah I saw that. Pretty dumb. Here's the video.



Edited. Then crazy Joe.

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

swake

Now Obama has a very specific right wing plan to run against. Game over. This was the pick Obama was hoping for. One of Romney's strength's so far was that he had distanced himself from his actions when he was governor to the right and really hadn't put any new concrete plans into place for Obama to argue against. Now there is real meat for the Obama team to go after. A lot of real meat.

Ryan's budget plan guts Medicare and Medicaid making medical care far more expensive for the poor, disabled and elderly and guts other programs for the poor. At the same time he cuts corporate taxes and the top end personal tax rate from 35% to 25% and pays for it by removing middle class tax exemptions effectively raising taxes on the middle class. No mention however of closing loopholes in corporate taxes that already lower our world leading (on paper) tax rates on corporations down to one the lowest effective tax rates in the developed world.

His plan basically removes benefits for the poor, disabled and retired and gives more money to the rich and corporations and pays for it by raising taxes on the middle class. None other than Newt Gingrich called the plan "right-wing social engineering"

Romney will come to regret this pick, it's telling that this late in the campaign he's still having to shore up his right wing base. This leaves him no way to pivot to the middle to pick up those moderate swing voters. He's already 9-10 points down, this isn't going to help in the long run.

guido911

Here is Ryan vs. Obama:

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

swake

Quote from: guido911 on August 11, 2012, 02:01:34 PM
Here is Ryan vs. Obama:



why didn't we get Obama's response?

guido911

Go google for it. And I would add that Ryan didn't "destroy" anyone despite the title of the video. It was just information.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.