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Let's talk Electoral College

Started by RecycleMichael, August 13, 2012, 01:27:10 PM

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RecycleMichael

It is like having a battle of the wits and you are only half a wit. I will type this slow so that you might understand.

I said they were maybe going to also raise some money while in Nevada. I didn't say they were not going to campaign.

Power is nothing till you use it.

Red Arrow

Quote from: RecycleMichael on October 25, 2012, 11:28:26 AM
It is like having a battle of the wits and you are only half a wit.

With you being the other half?   ;D
 

nathanm

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Looking at the crosstabs from recent Florida polls, it seems that Hispanics in general are not terribly keen on Obama there, which stands in stark contrast to the rest of the country. If your first thought is "but, the Cubans, they are quite Republican," you're in good company. They don't make up much of Florida's Hispanic population these days, though. Also, almost all the polls that show Romney with a comfortable lead are landline-only. Poll cell phones and the race is basically tied.

I wonder if Romney has been more aggressive with spanish language attack ads there than he has elsewhere or something.

Edited to add: And Romney better not get too comfortable with Gravis showing him up by only 1 point there today.
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Conan71

Interesting to note, and I realize it is not scientific, but the greater majority of my Hispanic friends in the Tulsa area are staunch Romney supporters.  Doesn't matter if they were born here or naturalized.  I suppose it's the red in the water.
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nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on October 25, 2012, 02:22:32 PM
Interesting to note, and I realize it is not scientific, but the greater majority of my Hispanic friends in the Tulsa area are staunch Romney supporters.  Doesn't matter if they were born here or naturalized.  I suppose it's the red in the water.

Would be nice if we could get a few opinion polls here in Oklahoma. I'd like to know how Bridenstine-Olson is going from someone not hired by the Bridenstine campaign.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

carltonplace

Quote from: nathanm on October 25, 2012, 02:34:35 PM
Would be nice if we could get a few opinion polls here in Oklahoma. I'd like to know how Bridenstine-Olson is going from someone not hired by the Bridenstine campaign.


Olson would be a perfectly good conservative candidate in most states. He doesn't stand a chance in OK with that "D" by his name. 

erfalf

Quote from: nathanm on October 25, 2012, 02:34:35 PM
Would be nice if we could get a few opinion polls here in Oklahoma. I'd like to know how Bridenstine-Olson is going from someone not hired by the Bridenstine campaign.

Bridenstine has out raised Olson by 35%. How often does the outcome mirror the fundraising?
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Townsend

Quote from: carltonplace on October 25, 2012, 02:36:44 PM

Olson would be a perfectly good conservative candidate in most states. He doesn't stand a chance in OK with that "D" by his name. 

His watch party is at Cain's.  Another reason elections should be on weekends.

erfalf

Quote from: Townsend on October 25, 2012, 02:45:51 PM
His watch party is at Cain's.  Another reason elections should be on weekends.

Why are elections on Tuesdays. Seems like Sunday would be the optimal day.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Hoss

Quote from: erfalf on October 25, 2012, 02:47:53 PM
Why are elections on Tuesdays. Seems like Sunday would be the optimal day.

QuoteWhen election day was selected by Congress in 1845 the country was mainly an agricultural society. November was chosen because the fall harvest was over and it was still mild enough for farmers and rural workers to be able to travel to the polls over unimproved roads.

Tuesday was chosen because most of the country had to travel a great distance to the polls in their counties. Monday was not reasonable because that would mean that people would have to start travel on Sunday and that would interfere with church services. The second Tuesday was chosen for two reasons, one, to keep election day from falling on all saints day and secondly, merchants were accustomed to doing their books on the first of the month.

erfalf

Quote from: Hoss on October 25, 2012, 02:55:26 PM


Thanks for posting. A tad antiquated. Although the rules were made so that the maximum amount of people would be able to vote. Well, I think the time has come to revisit these rules to decide when the optimum time for elections would be.

I guess we just stick with the Tuesday thing for every other election as well, for no other reason than the federal elections are on Tuesday?
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

TulsaRufnex

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Quote from: Conan71 on October 25, 2012, 02:22:32 PM
Interesting to note, and I realize it is not scientific, but the greater majority of my Hispanic friends in the Tulsa area are staunch Romney supporters.  Doesn't matter if they were born here or naturalized.  I suppose it's the red in the water.

Not my experience at all...  please continue... did they say this in spanish?  were they co-workers?   ::)

Government Sues Tulsa-Area Restaurants Over $1 Million In Unpaid Wages
http://m.newson6.com/story.aspx?story=19913654&catId=112042

QuoteThe suit was filed in federal court against the restaurants and owner Carlos Aguirre and seeks to recover the full amount of back wages for the employees as well as an injunction prohibiting future violations.

"The restaurant industry employs some of our country's lowest-paid, most vulnerable workers," said Secretary of Labor Hilda L. Solis. "When violations of the FLSA are discovered, the Labor Department will take appropriate action to ensure workers receive the wages they have earned and to which they are legally entitled."

The news release says the investigation determined employees, who in some cases worked as many as 72 hours in a week, were paid a fixed salary without overtime compensation for hours beyond 40 in a week.

The department also says employees did not always receive at least the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour.

Investigators say they also found that wait personnel were required to turn their tips over to management at the end of every shift, which caused their pay to fall below the minimum wage.
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Conan71

Quote from: Hoss on October 25, 2012, 02:55:26 PM
When election day was selected by Congress in 1845 the country was mainly an agricultural society. November was chosen because the fall harvest was over and it was still mild enough for farmers and rural workers to be able to travel to the polls over unimproved roads.

Tuesday was chosen because most of the country had to travel a great distance to the polls in their counties. Monday was not reasonable because that would mean that people would have to start travel on Sunday and that would interfere with church services. The second Tuesday was chosen for two reasons, one, to keep election day from falling on all saints day and secondly, merchants were accustomed to doing their books on the first of the month.


Sure makes getting a voter ID sound like much less of an asspain now, doesn't it?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Conan71

Quote from: carltonplace on October 25, 2012, 02:36:44 PM

Olson would be a perfectly good conservative candidate in most states. He doesn't stand a chance in OK with that "D" by his name. 

I think he could have mopped up in OK D-2.  He's much like Dan Boren.

I intend to vote for him unless they find a corpse in his trunk between now and election day.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on October 25, 2012, 04:02:11 PM
I intend to vote for him unless they find a corpse in his trunk between now and election day.

I probably won't vote for Olson if they find a corpse in his trunk, but that still won't get me to vote for Bridenstine.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln