Paul Ryan - hypocrite

[Conan71]

Some might say it is a matter of opinion on whether or not the stimulus worked, but hey, whatever.

Just more good theater so the Dims can avoid the issue of the economy.  Expect more hits on the Mormons, the wealthy, Venture Capital, the 1%, and baiting Republicans into social issues (war on women, war on blacks, war on Hispanics, war on the environment)  any carnival side show to distract voters from real issues affecting real people still four years later.

President Obama currently "enjoys" a 38% approval rating on the economy:

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/obama-job-approval-economy

Then there's this:

Who potential voters view more favorably on key issues:

ISSUE

Economy
40%  D
45%  R
Health Care
41%  D
44%  R
Education
41%  D
41%  R
Energy Policy
43%  D
41%  R
Immigration
34%  D
47%  R
Social Security
40%  D
43%  R
Afghanistan
38%  D
42%  R
Government Ethics
35%  D
40%  R
National Security
37%  D
47%  R
Taxes
41%  D
46%  R

Voters now trust Republicans slightly more than Democrats on eight of 10 important issues regularly tracked by Rasmussen Reports, including the most important one:  the economy.

The latest national telephone survey finds that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters trust Republicans more to handle the economy, while 40% place their trust in Democrats. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

Two national surveys of 1,000 Likely Voters each were conducted on August 8-9 & 12-13, 2012 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/trust_on_issues

[nathanm]

Some might say it is a matter of opinion on whether or not the stimulus worked, but hey, whatever.

Yes, everything is a matter of opinion. There are no facts in this world.



bucking miraculous how the job losses slowed down. After all, it's not like businesses were having any trouble meeting payroll at the time due to impossible conditions in the credit markets.

[Conan71]

Yes, everything is a matter of opinion. There are no facts in this world.

How exactly does your graph prove success of stimulus spending?

[erfalf]

How exactly does your graph prove success of stimulus spending?

Ding, ding, ding.

[RecycleMichael]

Im sure his office hundreds of similar letters for his district which he may or may not even really sign.  Entirely possiblw he had no awareness of them. 

He got over $20 million for a local energy efficiency company and over $5 million for local bus services.

This was free money for his constituents. Do you really think he didn't know anything about it? That his staff wouldn't have mentioned it to him that his letter brought in millions of dollars for two pet projects? Do you think the companies receiving the funds would have failed to say thank you to him?

Don't play stupid with us, Ryan. You knew but were so busy doing one thing and saying another that you have no excuse than to act forgetful and blame your staff.

He lied so people wouldn't think he was a hypocrite. But the truth came out.

Paul Ryan - hypocrite and liar.

[Gaspar]

You guys are just going to hurt yourselves.

[RecycleMichael]

You guys are just going to hurt yourselves.

The truth disinfects. The pain is part of the healing.

[nathanm]

How exactly does your graph prove success of stimulus spending?

A believer in immaculate recovery that just happened to coincide with the spending of stimulus funds, I take it?

[Conan71]

A believer in immaculate recovery that just happened to coincide with the spending of stimulus funds, I take it?

You are the same person who said for months, amongst dismal employment reports, that we didn't spend enough. 

Just because you say there's a causal relationship, it's supposed to be good enough for the rest of us? 

[nathanm]

You are the same person who said for months, amongst dismal employment reports, that we didn't spend enough. 

We didn't spend enough. Job creation has been dismal. The economists Romney's people constantly refer to when saying the stimulus failed claim that $2 trillion would have been a more appropriate number. That doesn't mean that the stimulus we did have had no effect at all. Perhaps it's just rank coincidence, but as stimulus spending ramped up, we went from losing 800,000 jobs a month to gaining between zero and 150,000ish.

Besides, arguing that the stimulus had no effect at all is also arguing that tax cuts have no effect at all. Is that really an argument you want to make?

[erfalf]

We didn't spend enough. Job creation has been dismal. The economists Romney's people constantly refer to when saying the stimulus failed claim that $2 trillion would have been a more appropriate number. That doesn't mean that the stimulus we did have had no effect at all. Perhaps it's just rank coincidence, but as stimulus spending ramped up, we went from losing 800,000 jobs a month to gaining between zero and 150,000ish.

Besides, arguing that the stimulus had no effect at all is also arguing that tax cuts have no effect at all. Is that really an argument you want to make?

So if the CBO says that the stimulus had a net negative effect on the GDP, does it mean anything to you?

[nathanm]

So if the CBO says that the stimulus had a net negative effect on the GDP, does it mean anything to you?

The CBO has released no report to date stating that, but if it had, it would be a strong data point. Not dispositive, but still an important data point.

[Red Arrow]

No, it's perfectly fine to vote for stimulus, as long as you don't later falsely claim it doesn't/didn't work.

We all realize that you never make a mistake, except for that one time you thought you made a mistake, but the rest of us sometimes do something that we later realize didn't work as well as we thought it would.

[erfalf]

The CBO has released no report to date stating that, but if it had, it would be a strong data point. Not dispositive, but still an important data point.

http://lonelyconservative.com/2011/11/cbo-report-stimulus-failed-to-stimulate/

Will it change your mind?

[Townsend]

http://lonelyconservative.com/2011/11/cbo-report-stimulus-failed-to-stimulate/

Will it change your mind?

The lonely conservative?