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Obama's acceptance speech

Started by RecycleMichael, September 06, 2012, 06:29:05 AM

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RecycleMichael

Every one of us should watch it. It is must see TV.
Power is nothing till you use it.

carltonplace

I'm looking forward to it. I hope he was taking notes during Clinton's speach.

Conan71

I'll watch it and I think MC and I will play a drinking game.  One shot for every time he says "I".

I've got 911 on speed dial in the event of alcohol poisoning.  ;D
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

RecycleMichael

You just used "I" five times in two sentences.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Conan71

Quote from: RecycleMichael on September 06, 2012, 09:00:07 AM
You just used "I" five times in two sentences.

Three times.  I'll and I've don't count.  Do I have to take three shots now?

Damn it, make that four....

On a serious note, I'm interested to hear if he's going to lay out any specifics of what he intends to do the next four years or if this will be more of a "unicorns and chocolate bars for everyone" speech.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

carltonplace

Quote from: Conan71 on September 06, 2012, 09:03:30 AM
Three times.  I'll and I've don't count.  Do I have to take three shots now?

Damn it, make that four....

On a serious note, I'm interested to hear if he's going to lay out any specifics of what he intends to do the next four years or if this will be more of a "unicorns and chocolate bars for everyone" speech.

I'll take my unicorn inside of my chocolate bar please.

Gaspar

Well, at least we know when he's being untruthful. 
He always says "Let me be clear" before he says something he has no intension of doing.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

AquaMan

Quote from: Gaspar on September 06, 2012, 10:12:02 AM
Well, at least we know when he's being untruthful. 
He always says "Let me be clear" before he says something he has no intension of doing.

Its a lot easier to tell when R&R are lying or posturing for votes. Their lips move and they put their arms around each other's shoulders to hide their crossed fingers.
onward...through the fog

Ed W

Dark chocolate for me, please, because it's better for the heart.  And would the unicorn be the free-range, low fat version?  I'm thinkin' barbecue.

Seriously, I'm looking forward to the speech too.  He needs a rabble rouser to engage the base and turn out those who've seen the last two years as fairly lack luster...except for the health care law...and Bin Laden...and getting out of Iraq....and the Dream Act.  There's probably more.

One thing I'd like - and it'll never happen - would be to see Cheney and Rumsfeld behind bars for their part in taking us to war based on false pretenses. 
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Conan71

Quote from: Ed W on September 06, 2012, 05:17:42 PM

One thing I'd like - and it'll never happen - would be to see Cheney and Rumsfeld behind bars for their part in taking us to war based on false pretenses. 

Slippery slope.  Ordering drone strikes which kill innocent civilians can be considered war crimes as well.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Ed W

Quote from: Conan71 on September 06, 2012, 06:11:46 PM
Slippery slope.  Ordering drone strikes which kill innocent civilians can be considered war crimes as well.

Good point.  Where does the Constitution give any federal official the power to act as judge, jury, and executioner, depriving an American citizen of his life without due process?
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Red Arrow

Quote from: Conan71 on September 06, 2012, 06:11:46 PM
Slippery slope.  Ordering drone strikes which kill innocent civilians can be considered war crimes as well.

Only if you lose or retreat pull out without a complete win.
 

Gaspar

Quote from: Conan71 on September 06, 2012, 09:03:30 AM
Three times.  I'll and I've don't count.  Do I have to take three shots now?

Damn it, make that four....

On a serious note, I'm interested to hear if he's going to lay out any specifics of what he intends to do the next four years or if this will be more of a "unicorns and chocolate bars for everyone" speech.

I guess you got your answer.  He was very specific on the attack, but offered no new specifics or plans as to how he would tackle any of the issues.  Even on the attack, his speech was pale in comparison with the "talk" that Clinton gave.  As my wife, the Democrat, said about 1/4 the way into the speech "do we have to watch this?  It's the same crap he always says." Then left to watch Horders in the other room.

I must say, I thought he did very well on the attack though.  It seems he did pick up some pointers from Clinton, but without the ability to offer any real alternative besides "Forward." I think it will do little to sway the uncertainty in the minds of independent voters.  I think the campaign was wise not to anticipate a bump from this convention.  In comparison with past conventions this one was a bit flat.  Michelle Obama's speech was the most memorable moment.

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Unlike Romney, Obama and his campaign have long had specific plans that have received much press. That was a nice use of the "accuse the opponent of having our guy's weakness" gambit, though. You're definitely bringing your A game today.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Gaspar

Quote from: nathanm on September 07, 2012, 07:41:34 AM
Unlike Romney, Obama and his campaign have long had specific plans that have received much press.

How so?
They aren't available on the Obama campaign website.
Though the media said he was going to go into some detail last night, he didn't.
Every bugget "speech" and proposal he has offered has ended up as a "framework" that even the CBO complains about, and his own party won't accept.
His foreign policy is always reactive, giving people the impression that he "leads from behind."
I like that he seeks the advice of experts, but he refuses to take it.
To tell the truth, beyond the few paragraphs on his website under "issues" that echo the same emotionocentric babble as 4 years ago, there's not a shred of real policy.
The one policy he has taken up with a fury is his personal drone war, but he wont' toute that.
As far as the economy is concerned he's skated on old Bush policy for the past three years, popping up every now and then to cry for higher taxes on the rich, but not following through with it.
He has continued to offer vague plans to cut spending and reduce the debt, but his actions have been exactly the opposite.

His intensions have no detail, and his results are non-existant.
He has become an excellent golfer, but remains a poor leader.

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.