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Mitt Romney... 47 percent will vote for Obama "no matter what"

Started by TulsaRufnex, September 17, 2012, 07:14:35 PM

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erfalf

Quote from: Hoss on September 17, 2012, 08:41:36 PM
Didn't say that.  It does, however, speak to the desperation that the Romney water-carriers currently use.

Um, hardly...

I think there is plenty of material over the last four years, and I rarely see anyone on the campaign drudging up stuff from the '08 campaign (although there is plenty). The nature of the Romney video just reminded me immediately of the similar Obama quote. That's all.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

erfalf

So is everyone upset by Romney saying it, or the fact that it has a grain of truth to it?

Edit: Or are they just upset because it came out of Romney's mouth, so therefore it must be hateful and evil, no matter how on point it is?
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Hoss

Quote from: erfalf on September 17, 2012, 08:45:51 PM
Um, hardly...

I think there is plenty of material over the last four years, and I rarely see anyone on the campaign drudging up stuff from the '08 campaign (although there is plenty). The nature of the Romney video just reminded me immediately of the similar Obama quote. That's all.

Yeah, because pretty much cutting loose those '47 percent' is going to help Mittens in the general.  And it is so synonymous with what Obama said in that quote.  Gotcha.   ::)

RecycleMichael

Who is upset?

True or not, it is a poor thing to say seven weeks before an election.

I am obese, but if you called me fat so I wouldn't vote for you.
Power is nothing till you use it.

TulsaRufnex

#19
Quote from: erfalf on September 17, 2012, 08:46:32 PM
So is everyone upset by Romney saying it, or the fact that it has a grain of truth to it?

Edit: Or are they just upset because it came out of Romney's mouth, so therefore it must be hateful and evil, no matter how on point it is?

It's actually an un-truth.

Obama's "47% who will vote for him no matter what" is NOT the same 47% who had zero federal tax liability last year, no matter how much Republicans would like to make that their 2012 meme...

End of story.
"Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves."
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TulsaRufnex

#20
Funny how most of the states with the highest number of filers with no federal tax liability are RELIABLY RED...  ::)

http://taxfoundation.org/article/states-vary-widely-number-tax-filers-no-income-tax-liability

QuoteThe map on page 1 and the table below show the percentage of tax filers in each state who have no income tax liability as well as the state's rank among the other 50 states. Nine of the ten states with the largest percentage of nonpayers are in the South and Southwest. In Mississippi, 45 percent of federal tax returns remit nothing or receive money with their federal tax returns; that is the highest percentage nationally. Georgia is next at 41 percent, followed by Arkansas at 41 percent, and Alabama, South Carolina, and New Mexico at 40 percent.

All of the top 10 ranking states have among the lowest median family incomes in the country. Of this group, Georgia has the highest median family income at $60,268. Mississippi has the lowest at $46,668.

By contrast, the states with the lowest percentage of nonpayers are not as geographically concentrated. What they tend to have in common is higher incomes. Half of the 10 with the lowest percentage of nonpayers are in the Northeast and half are in the West and Northern Plains states. Alaska has the lowest percentage of nonpayers, 21 percent of filers. Massachusetts has the second lowest at 27 percent, followed by Connecticut (27 percent), New Hampshire (28 percent), and Wyoming (28 percent) to round out the bottom five.
"Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves."
― Brendan Behan  http://www.tulsaroughnecks.com

Red Arrow

QuoteAll of the top 10 ranking states have among the lowest median family incomes in the country.

By contrast, the states with the lowest percentage of nonpayers are not as geographically concentrated. What they tend to have in common is higher incomes.

I never would have guessed.  ;D
 

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: erfalf on September 17, 2012, 08:37:27 PM
Just to be clear, is nothing prior to 2012 allowed to be brought up for discussion when it pertains to Obama anymore?

Absolutely yes it is allowed.  I will continue to bring up his previous actions/thoughts/words regarding the curtailment of the Second Amendment.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

nathanm

It's telling that he blames the victims of his financier's schemes for being unemployed. The poor economy, the Bush tax cuts, and the growth in retirees are the primary drivers of the low number of people who owed federal income tax in 2009. 2009, the first full year of the most severe financial crisis since the Great Depression, and you guys try to use it as some kind of evidence of the rise of government dependency. It defies all logic. Of course people are going to be more dependent on charity and the government when they've lost their jobs or had their earnings slashed by the credit crunch and resulting recession.

What this shows is that Romney isn't just pretending to be a clueless idiot to try and win an election. Apparently, he actually believes the bull exit he spews. You guys better hope that he doesn't manage to keep saying enough stupid smile to get Democrat-leaners energized. If he does manage to come up with a real stunner, he'll blow it not only for himself but for the down ticket races.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

TulsaRufnex

"Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves."
― Brendan Behan  http://www.tulsaroughnecks.com

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: erfalf on September 17, 2012, 08:46:32 PM
So is everyone upset by Romney saying it, or the fact that it has a grain of truth to it?

Edit: Or are they just upset because it came out of Romney's mouth, so therefore it must be hateful and evil, no matter how on point it is?

Guess it is good for those people that everything he says actually is hateful and evil...they can be consistent in their upset.  Bonus for them that it is seldom "on point".



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

guido911

I am not sure what is more pathetic. People thinking this comment, which is nothing more that a restatement of this bozo, is offensive:



OR...That if Barry wins, then we know 47% of the voters perhaps did vote for him because they IN FACT are dependent on government. And soccerpunk, no one believes you pay taxes... :P
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: nathanm on September 17, 2012, 11:02:56 PM
It's telling that he blames the victims of his financier's schemes for being unemployed. The poor economy, the Bush tax cuts, and the growth in retirees are the primary drivers of the low number of people who owed federal income tax in 2009. 2009, the first full year of the most severe financial crisis since the Great Depression, and you guys try to use it as some kind of evidence of the rise of government dependency. It defies all logic. Of course people are going to be more dependent on charity and the government when they've lost their jobs or had their earnings slashed by the credit crunch and resulting recession.

What this shows is that Romney isn't just pretending to be a clueless idiot to try and win an election. Apparently, he actually believes the bull exit he spews. You guys better hope that he doesn't manage to keep saying enough stupid smile to get Democrat-leaners energized. If he does manage to come up with a real stunner, he'll blow it not only for himself but for the down ticket races.


Well, I guess I have to agree with Mittens...if they had just borrowed the money to start a business from their parents, they wouldn't be in this condition, so it is obviously self-inflicted....**



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I'm kidding!!!






"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

TulsaRufnex

Quote from: guido911 on September 17, 2012, 11:09:27 PM
OR...That if Barry wins, then we know 47% of the voters perhaps did vote for him because they IN FACT are dependent on government. And soccerpunk, no one believes you pay taxes... :P
"Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves."
― Brendan Behan  http://www.tulsaroughnecks.com

TulsaRufnex

#29
INTEGRITY...



SCUM....

"Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves."
― Brendan Behan  http://www.tulsaroughnecks.com