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Mitt Romney... 47 percent will vote for Obama "no matter what"

Started by TulsaRufnex, September 17, 2012, 07:14:35 PM

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Red Arrow

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 19, 2012, 09:14:06 AM
All of them do.  It's only the "starting from third base" mentality of the Romne-acs who think otherwise. 

It only takes one example to disprove "all".  I know one.   He's a good friend. 
 


Red Arrow

Quote from: DolfanBob on September 19, 2012, 10:20:15 AM
Well unless you make a six figure salary. Pretty soon even those people may qualify for food stamps.

My 6 figure salary includes too many place to the right of the decimal point.  
 

nathanm

Quote from: DolfanBob on September 19, 2012, 10:20:15 AM
The Bull shirt excuse that it's the Hurricane in the gulf causing it is just that. The prices went up even before the wells were closed and because why? speculation of what we might use or lose. How bout we wait until it acually happens before we pre start the gas gouging? Nope can't do it.

Sounds like an efficient market to me, pricing in risk.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

erfalf

I would guess that a huge part of the consistent increase in energy prices has to do with the generally sad state of more other investments. I understand the stock market is on the rebound, but at one point people were fleeing in droves. And the real estate market, well... Investors want a return greater than what their mattresses would provide so they put in oil, then other commodities including food.

Think in 2008 during a full blown recession we had excess supplies and reduced demand, and nothing.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

guido911

Quote from: Red Arrow on September 19, 2012, 12:03:43 AM
Obama didn't do that.

Navy Seals, intelligence services, and taxpayer dollars for equipment did that.

If you follow the left's logic, then Obama is responsible for the deaths of every American soldier or diplomat since he took office--including the four dead in Libya. And since Barry is the "decider", all that's wrong with our economy is on him because he "decided" on the stimulus, porkulus, bailouts, etc...As for bin Laden, it absolutely sickens me how all those damned anti-Bush bashers were all in the streets screaming about Geneva convention this, human rights violations that...yet, target drone killings, invading Pakistan to get bin Laden, rendition, keeping Gitmo open, military tribunals, and all the other things that WAS so terrible is now wonderful. Yay war machine...when we are controlling it.

And by the way, where are all of these morons:



I know, they are doing this now:

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.


nathanm

Interestingly, several polling organizations have had similar results over the past couple of weeks.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

I do find it interesting though that "ordinary" people feel a connection to Obama since he generally hangs out with celebrities and the uber wealthy, takes posh vacations, and doesn't seem near as in touch with the disadvantaged as Clinton was.  I don't think he really even shows much empathy when he speaks.

Quite an interesting contrast during the convention when you had Clinton and Obama back-to-back.  Until that point, I think many people thought Obama was the greatest orator they had ever heard.

Now let's see what the poll looks like when Pew polls some Republijerks.  :P
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

erfalf

Do you ever notice that you hear things like "greatest speaker ever", "greatest game ever", "worst conditions ever"? It's like people in the news/sports media have zero memories doesn't it?
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Townsend

Quote from: erfalf on September 19, 2012, 03:47:24 PM
Do you ever notice that you hear things like "greatest speaker ever", "greatest game ever", "worst conditions ever"? It's like people in the news/sports media have zero memories doesn't it?

Are all those started with "Some say" or "Some would say"?

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on September 19, 2012, 03:28:53 PM
Quite an interesting contrast during the convention when you had Clinton and Obama back-to-back.  Until that point, I think many people thought Obama was the greatest orator they had ever heard.

They're both very good, they're just very good at different things. Obama doesn't talk numbers as well as Clinton. Clinton doesn't do soaring and inspirational rhetoric as well as Obama. Neither come close to being the best orator EVARRRR, but few people actually believe either of them are.

You might find this informative as to how it is people connect with Obama, among other things: http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/10/michael-lewis-profile-barack-obama
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on September 19, 2012, 04:02:04 PM
Are all those started with "Some say" or "Some would say"?

Rarely, especially when it comes to stormageddon.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on September 19, 2012, 04:05:49 PM
They're both very good, they're just very good at different things. Obama doesn't talk numbers as well as Clinton. Clinton doesn't do soaring and inspirational rhetoric as well as Obama. Neither come close to being the best orator EVARRRR, but few people actually believe either of them are.

You might find this informative as to how it is people connect with Obama, among other things: http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/10/michael-lewis-profile-barack-obama

I remember quite distinctly the talking heads gushing about how eloquent he was and one of the best speakers, if not the best they had ever heard.  There were even people posting here about what a great speaker O was.  Heck it even sent a chill up Chris Matthews leg.  ;D
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

DolfanBob

I could be the best speaker ever. I just don't talk in punctuation very well.
Changing opinions one mistake at a time.