Mitt Romney... 47 percent will vote for Obama "no matter what"

[Townsend]

I remember quite distinctly the talking heads gushing about how eloquent he was and one of the best speakers, if not the best they had ever heard.  There were even people posting here about what a great speaker O was.  Heck it even sent a chill up Chris Matthews leg. 

It's the voice.  I make 'em all quiver when I talk too.  Deep voice and an eloquent way are two of my charms.

[erfalf]

Are all those started with "Some say" or "Some would say"?

Oh come on, you've never heard the announcers at the national championship game, say this is greatest game ever. Or the weathermen claiming the worst storm ever, biggest earthquake ever, on and on and on... And tingles... 

[Hoss]

Haha....

[heironymouspasparagus]

It only takes one example to disprove "all".  I know one.   He's a good friend. 

Talk of a 47%er implies they make some money, but not enough to pay taxes - and that would lead to the requirement, if they are gonna benefit from "gaming" the system, that they must file a tax return (can't get earned income credit without earned income).  So your friend can't be a 47%er because he doesn't work, so doesn't have to or get to file a return, depending on circumstance.

Nice try, though.  That could slip by very easily, especially as a Romney sound bite!!

[heironymouspasparagus]

Do you ever notice that you hear things like "greatest speaker ever", "greatest game ever", "worst conditions ever"? It's like people in the news/sports media have zero memories doesn't it?

Wow!  (I will let the zero memory comment slide beyond that...)

[heironymouspasparagus]

I understand the stock market is on the rebound, but at one point people were fleeing in droves. And the real estate market, well... Investors want a return greater than what their mattresses would provide so they put in oil, then other commodities including food.

We are well beyond being "on the rebound".  We have rebounded.  We are floating around in that rarified atmosphere of irrational exhuberance where we spend much of the last 20 years or so.  (Hey!  I bet that would be a good place to put Social Security funds!)

[Red Arrow]

Clinton doesn't do soaring and inspirational rhetoric as well as Obama.

That is one of the things I don't like about Obama.  I have always been distrustful and turned off by inspirational/motivational speakers.

[Red Arrow]

Talk of a 47%er implies they make some money, but not enough to pay taxes - and that would lead to the requirement, if they are gonna benefit from "gaming" the system, that they must file a tax return (can't get earned income credit without earned income).  So your friend can't be a 47%er because he doesn't work, so doesn't have to or get to file a return, depending on circumstance.
Nice try, though.  That could slip by very easily, especially as a Romney sound bite!!

Some investment income from when he did work, the small portion of retirement that his ex-wife did not get in the divorce and some disability.  Not old enough, yet, for Social Security.  Yes, he has to file.

[Red Arrow]

Haha....

Imagine the traffic jam if those 47% were on the road.  OUCH!

[Red Arrow]

We are well beyond being "on the rebound".  We have rebounded.  We are floating around in that rarified atmosphere of irrational exhuberance where we spend much of the last 20 years or so.  (Hey!  I bet that would be a good place to put Social Security funds!)

The price of my employer's stock is about where it fell to in late 2008 and early 2009.  There were some minor peaks, right about stock purchase plan purchase times,  since then.  The recent price is still about 30% off what it was in 2008 before the nosedive.

[heironymouspasparagus]

The price of my employer's stock is about where it fell to in late 2008 and early 2009.  There were some minor peaks, right about stock purchase plan purchase times,  since then.  The recent price is still about 30% off what it was in 2008 before the nosedive.

That is truly sad.  Mine has rebounded back to where they were.  And previous places have all come back, too.

There has to be some additional economic input affecting that price.  Business down?  Hope it gets better.

Stock price isn't the biggest thing in the world (depending on position in 401k) but I would wonder if it represents an adjustment to get to 'normal' level, or indicator of deeper issues....  might may me nervous.

Do you think someone might be "gaming" it??

[guido911]

Imagine the traffic jam if those 47% were on the road.  OUCH!

Good flip....And then there's this....

[TulsaRufnex]

[Hoss]

And then, in the irony of ALL ironies, the recording was made by Jimmah Carter's grandson!

Karma.  It's a grumble!

[TulsaRufnex]

hmmm... on second thought, maybe I prefer this one... The Onion couldn't have come up with better headlines...