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Mitt Romney... 47 percent will vote for Obama "no matter what"

Started by TulsaRufnex, September 17, 2012, 07:14:35 PM

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heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: nathanm on September 25, 2012, 11:17:57 AM
Yet somehow people still claim that Obama has somehow kneecapped the industry. Odd, that. You'd think that the President who had declining production during his years in office would be accused of such, but not in upside down world.


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Townsend

Some more of the 47% that will vote for Obama apparently...


Townsend

There's another Mother Jones video of Romney from the 80's this time talking about his company and harvesting companies for profit.

Not really sure how it's a surprise or shocking but it will most likely be on the mainstream this eve or in the morning.

nathanm

Lefty news outlet edited the video and did some dubbing to put words in his mouth.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

erfalf

Quote from: TulsaRufnex on September 24, 2012, 09:41:37 PM
So wait... if Obama's policies (reward your best donors) are the same as previous administrations, then maybe you should quit while you're behind.
Bush was supposed to have had the most oil industry friendly administration in history... Obama was supposed to have the most anti-industry friendly administration in history, yet we have higher domestic production under Obama than in previous decades.... funny dat.

Typical childish partisan rhetoric from Tulsa's logic-deficient "Children of the Oil"   :D






Here's a little perspective:



Something tells me that higher oil prices might have something to do with increased production.

sorry the graph is so freaking big, don't know how to re-size.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Red Arrow

Quote from: erfalf on September 28, 2012, 07:49:04 PM
Here's a little perspective:



Something tells me that higher oil prices might have something to do with increased production.

sorry the graph is so freaking big, don't know how to re-size.

You obviously have incorrect data since it doesn't support the Obama administration.
 

nathanm

Oil was higher during the 2008 speculative bubble. A little hint for you, though: We aren't going back to 30 dollar a barrel oil, unless we find some new easily accessible liquid oil. Unfortunately, it seems that which remains to be discovered is under 10,000 feet or more of water and several thousand feet of rock.

RA, that extra large graph has nothing to do with anything except pointing out that we already pumped all the easy to get stuff back in the 70s. It is interesting, however, that in your mind (apparently) anything that improves has nothing to do with Obama, yet everything that fails to improve or gets worse is his fault.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on September 28, 2012, 10:01:37 PM
RA, that extra large graph has nothing to do with anything except pointing out that we already pumped all the easy to get stuff back in the 70s. It is interesting, however, that in your mind (apparently) anything that improves has nothing to do with Obama, yet everything that fails to improve or gets worse is his fault.

Please correlate that to the claims that domestic oil production is higher now than in the last few decades.
FWIW, I didn't even blame Jimmy Carter on the big increase in oil/gasoline prices when he was in office.  Some things are beyond the President's control.  His policies may have contributed to the price but he alone was not responsible for the price spike.

However, you are right about everything wrong with this country being Obama's fault.

You are such a predictable partisan.  You are becoming boring.
 

nathanm

Yes, production has only returned to about the level it was in 2002. Might as well not even bother. I'm not sure what's partisan about pointing out when you say things that don't make sense.

That said, I am partisan. The Republican Party has been taken over by radicals and seeks to make drastic changes to the status quo. I am very much against them in their quest to remake society. I'm also against all the goddamned lying that both parties do, but I see the extremism as a more immediate danger.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: erfalf on September 28, 2012, 07:49:04 PM
Here's a little perspective:

Something tells me that higher oil prices might have something to do with increased production.

sorry the graph is so freaking big, don't know how to re-size.


Every single post - just keep showing how history totally left itself out of your mind.  Do you not understand how oil prices have been increasing the entire time that you show the graph to make the point that production has gone down because prices weren't going up??  Do you even recognize this stuff when you brain thinks it??  Amazing....

Clue; oil prices have been rising since the 30's with very short, sporadic dips from time to time.  Just so you can have a little touch of reality....enjoy!

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Red Arrow on September 28, 2012, 10:10:00 PM
Please correlate that to the claims that domestic oil production is higher now than in the last few decades.
FWIW, I didn't even blame Jimmy Carter on the big increase in oil/gasoline prices when he was in office.  Some things are beyond the President's control.  His policies may have contributed to the price but he alone was not responsible for the price spike.

However, you are right about everything wrong with this country being Obama's fault.

You are such a predictable partisan.  You are becoming boring.

Hint: look at the graph that shows the last 7 years that the big graph leaves out.  (Don't be going erfalf on us, now!!)

Sorry to disappoint you about Jimmy, but oil was much higher before he even took office.  (And has continued to increase.)  Still cheap comparatively speaking...

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

erfalf

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 28, 2012, 11:36:30 PM

Every single post - just keep showing how history totally left itself out of your mind.  Do you not understand how oil prices have been increasing the entire time that you show the graph to make the point that production has gone down because prices weren't going up??  Do you even recognize this stuff when you brain thinks it??  Amazing....

Clue; oil prices have been rising since the 30's with very short, sporadic dips from time to time.  Just so you can have a little touch of reality....enjoy!



I really wasn't trying to prove much of anything, except that short term series aren't always the most reflective of reality. Hence, the "perspective".
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Red Arrow

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 28, 2012, 11:44:07 PM
Hint: look at the graph that shows the last 7 years that the big graph leaves out.  (Don't be going erfalf on us, now!!)
Sorry to disappoint you about Jimmy, but oil was much higher before he even took office.  (And has continued to increase.)  Still cheap comparatively speaking...

Hint:  Look at 2001 to 2003.  The levels were pretty much as the present peak.  That was only 9 years ago, not decades (plural).  If production continues to climb, great.



QuoteSorry to disappoint you about Jimmy, but oil was much higher before he even took office.  (And has continued to increase.)  Still cheap comparatively speaking...

I remember the price of gas went down a bit at the end of Ford's administration and I think it continued down some during the early part of Carter's administration.  I remember it going back up before Reagan took office.  The price of oil/gas was an issue during the 1980 election and there was no FOX news to pounce on a sitting Democratic Party President.

 

nathanm

"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

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