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Michelle Bachman - congressional embarassment

Started by RecycleMichael, September 30, 2012, 10:37:07 PM

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heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Red Arrow on October 02, 2012, 08:16:48 PM
Obviously you were ineffective.  Either that or wrong.


Neither.  It is symptomatic of deflection by Disciples of The Script.  Paying no attention and not learning from their mistakes.
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: nathanm on October 02, 2012, 04:58:14 PM
Yes, in your self contradictory fantasy land, that is indeed the case. Out here in the real world where people need to work to have things like food and a place to live, workers have little bargaining power. Surely you understand how severely asymmetric bargaining power distorts markets.

He does.  He doesn't want YOU to understand it, though.
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Hoss


heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Red Arrow on October 02, 2012, 08:02:02 PM
It would be far better to split the $90 among the existing staff and not hire someone for that job that isn't worth a living wage.  That person you didn't hire can find find a job somewhere else, maybe.



That is exactly what he did as long as he possibly could, but when he found out he couldn't get the tables cleaned in a reasonable, timely fashion, he finally - belatedly - came to the realization that another bus boy was necessary.  Darn the bad luck...now someone has to be hired just to clean tables.  And when there are 24, 4 top equivalents, 1/3 of which stay dirty during a 2 hour rush because no one cleans them - what is the lost revenue due to the number of people who could not find seating, so decide never to bother such a busy place again, or came in, saw the mess and decided not to stay for that visit.  I bet it is more than the money the newby is gonna cost.



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Red Arrow

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on October 02, 2012, 11:26:50 PM
Neither.  It is symptomatic of deflection by Disciples of The Script.  Paying no attention and not learning from their mistakes.

You were unable to reach your audience.  That is being ineffective.
 

Red Arrow

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on October 02, 2012, 11:39:38 PM
That is exactly what he did as long as he possibly could, but when he found out he couldn't get the tables cleaned in a reasonable, timely fashion, he finally - belatedly - came to the realization that another bus boy was necessary.  Darn the bad luck...now someone has to be hired just to clean tables.  And when there are 24, 4 top equivalents, 1/3 of which stay dirty during a 2 hour rush because no one cleans them - what is the lost revenue due to the number of people who could not find seating, so decide never to bother such a busy place again, or came in, saw the mess and decided not to stay for that visit.  I bet it is more than the money the newby is gonna cost.

You are making a lot of assumptions which may not be accurate.
 

Red Arrow

Quote from: Hoss on October 02, 2012, 11:36:27 PM
That's probably about an 8 on the creepy eye scale.

That's more than bad enough for me.
 

Gaspar

Quote from: Red Arrow on October 03, 2012, 08:03:58 AM
You are making a lot of assumptions which may not be accurate.

It's not important.   We've had 50 years of observation on how minimum wage affects employment and the negative affect it has on the poor.  It's unreasonable to argue with amorphic scenarios like this.

The high rate of unemployment among teenagers, and especially black teenagers, is both a scandal and a serious source of social unrest. Yet it is largely a result of minimum wage laws. We regard the minimum wage law as one of the most, if not the most, anti-black laws on the statute books. – Milton Friedman, Nobel Prize-winning economist

Past studies by and large confirm the prediction that higher minimum wages reduce employment opportunities and raise unemployment, particularly among teenagers, minorities and other low-skilled workers. – Masanori Hashimoto

Low-income workers as a group are the major victims of minimum wage legislation. – Keith B. Leffler



The primary purpose of proposals to raise minimum wage above natural averages is primarily for the purchase of votes before an election.  The electorate is typically incapable of anticipating the consequence.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

RecycleMichael

We have had nine years of the Bush tax cuts for the rich. Where are the jobs?
Power is nothing till you use it.

Townsend

Marshall's beer is tasty and a Wookie belly dancing to a Klingon band.



Gaspar

Quote from: RecycleMichael on October 03, 2012, 08:31:14 AM
We have had nine years of the Bush tax cuts for the rich. Where are the jobs?

We had a bump in the road.

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

Quote from: RecycleMichael on October 03, 2012, 08:31:14 AM
We have had nine years of the Bush tax cuts for the rich. Where are the jobs?

Ask President Obama.  I'm sure he's got a great excuse!

It's now his tax cut anyhow it was supposed to expire at the end of 2010.  Last I checked, he'd been in office almost two years at that point and even had a lame duck majority in the House.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Gaspar

Quote from: Conan71 on October 03, 2012, 10:02:58 AM
Ask President Obama.  I'm sure he's got a great excuse!

It's now his tax cut anyhow it was supposed to expire at the end of 2010.  Last I checked, he'd been in office almost two years at that point and even had a lame duck majority in the House.

Get out da Bushes!
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on October 03, 2012, 10:02:58 AM
It's now his tax cut anyhow it was supposed to expire at the end of 2010.  Last I checked, he'd been in office almost two years at that point and even had a lame duck majority in the House.

That pesky filibuster, always a thorn in the side of the majority.

It's always interesting how business owners are too stupid whenever it's convenient for Gaspar's political arguments, yet the rest of the time they're godlike figures who make the whole world go.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Gaspar

Quote from: nathanm on October 03, 2012, 04:15:01 PM
That pesky filibuster, always a thorn in the side of the majority.

It's always interesting how business owners are too stupid whenever it's convenient for Gaspar's political arguments, yet the rest of the time they're godlike figures who make the whole world go.

Voting in favor of extending the Bush Tax Cuts in 2010 were 139 Democrats and 138 Republicans, while 112 Democrats and 36 Republicans voted against it.  Seemed like a rather bi-partisan vote in the house, but you're on a roll.

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.