THE VINEYARD ON MEMORIAL

[Conan71]

On that subject,there's many more people walking/running/biking/playing games in my Southie neighborhood than I ever noticed in my mid-town neighborhood.  I see many more people going to the trails where I live now than I ever saw near 31st street.

Yes, but Bikerfox lives amongst you. 

[Townsend]

Yes, but Bikerfox lives amongst you. 

Well that displeases me.

[Red Arrow]

Living farther out and putting yourself more at risk for a major high-speed car wreck = A-OK.

Let me know where it is out here that you can drive fast.  I'll change my route to that road.

[nathanm]

The whole "safety" thing is mental. Living in the city and putting yourself more at risk for crime=scary.

That's the thing, there's not really less crime out there than there is in most of the rest of Tulsa if you look at the maps TPD publishes.

I see many more people going to the trails where I live now than I ever saw near 31st street.

There are no trails near 31st Street along most of its length, so it doesn't surprise me that you see more people going to the trails if you now live near a trail.

[Townsend]

That's the thing, there's not really less crime out there than there is in most of the rest of Tulsa if you look at the maps TPD publishes.

There are no trails near 31st Street along most of its length, so it doesn't surprise me that you see more people going to the trails if you now live near a trail.

I don't.  Same distance.

[carltonplace]

It might be that there are more places to run and bike where I live so less concentration on any one given trail. I see people running and biking in DT, in the neighborhoods, on the Midtown trail, on the east and west banks.

[sgrizzle]

[Hoss]

Damn, I guess that "Signage" store must be popular.

[Red Arrow]

Damn, I guess that "Signage" store must be popular.

They must have taken their visual cues from WalMart a bit farther south.  WalMart made the front a facade appearing to be many stores but inside it's just another super WalMart.

[sgrizzle]

They must have taken their visual cues from WalMart a bit farther south.  WalMart made the front a facade appearing to be many stores but inside it's just another super WalMart.

That's actually fairly common amongst PooperCenters.

[Ibanez]

Does anyone know where I can purchase some signs?

[sgrizzle]

The good part is it looks like this center will just be a short distance down the road from redacted.

[swake]

Oooo, nice. Tuscan.

Is it a LIFESTYLE center?

[carltonplace]

Oooo, nice. Tuscan.

Is it a LIFESTYLE center?

Tuscan...must be a Bumgarner project.

[rdj]

The good part is it looks like this center will just be a short distance down the road from redacted.

You mean the giant warehouse chain that must not be named that is buying property from the Warren's?