Issued citation......

[Red Arrow]

A warning of "next time, do me a favor and come to a complete stop" would have sufficed. 

Would a warning really have made you more likely than a ticket and fine to consider coming to a complete stop at stop signs in the future?  Just curious.

[RecycleMichael]

It is hard to come to a complete stop when I have been drinking.

[TUalum0982]

Would a warning really have made you more likely than a ticket and fine to consider coming to a complete stop at stop signs in the future?  Just curious.

I think of the warning my neighbor, whose a OHP trooper, issued me every time I pass the creek turnpike and hwy 75.  That was when the bridge over 75 at 111th was under construction, so daily for 3yrs? it certainly has. 

[tulsa_fan]

You actually did get a break when he choose not to tow your car for proof of insurance.  They are in those neighborhoods because neighbors have contacted them specifically asking for traffic enforcement.  I've received many warnings for speeding.  I got two monster tickets driving to Nebraka . . . . guess who's driving a little slower now??   

[heironymouspasparagus]

You actually did get a break when he choose not to tow your car for proof of insurance.  They are in those neighborhoods because neighbors have contacted them specifically asking for traffic enforcement.  I've received many warnings for speeding.  I got two monster tickets driving to Nebraka . . . . guess who's driving a little slower now??   

Not me!  Same speed forever!!  Kick out the jams...  oh, wait...different era...!!

79 mph down the turnpike appears to be fine for OHP.  Have even passed them with cruise control set at that speed and no problem.

[nathanm]

You actually did get a break when he choose not to tow your car for proof of insurance.

They can and do check on their nifty little computers (or have dispatch check). Only once in my time here in Oklahoma have I been able to produce the actual card. As far as OHP goes, don't drive 90 and don't hit your brakes when you pass them and they won't hassle you unless they are speed trapping, IME.

[heironymouspasparagus]

They can and do check on their nifty little computers (or have dispatch check). Only once in my time here in Oklahoma have I been able to produce the actual card. As far as OHP goes, don't drive 90 and don't hit your brakes when you pass them and they won't hassle you unless they are speed trapping, IME.

I have sped up to follow fast cars on occasion, just to see how fast they were going - 85 mph.  Couple of times after a few miles, I slowed back down after a few miles (mileage is too low at 85), and then a few miles later, I would pass them while they were talking to the OHP.  Glad it wasn't me.  So I just keep on piddling along at 79 and don't worry about it.

[TUalum0982]

You actually did get a break when he choose not to tow your car for proof of insurance.  They are in those neighborhoods because neighbors have contacted them specifically asking for traffic enforcement.  I've received many warnings for speeding.  I got two monster tickets driving to Nebraka . . . . guess who's driving a little slower now??   

correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression they could only tow your vehicle if they couldnt verify there was insurance on the car?  I understand the company vehicle I was in, didnt have the actual slip of paper, but we are self insured and he saw in that the computer.  For him to come back and say "I was able to verify there is insurance in the vehicle, however oklahoma law states that I could tow the vehicle away without insurance" I think was incorrect.  I couldnt find the exact statute, but are they able to tow the vehicle even after verifiying vehicle does have insurance, just not the form? I just cant imagine a police officer berating me over something so trivial when I was delivering hot meals to elderly citizens.  I plan on calling the DA's office on monday to discuss ticket further.

[patric]

For him to come back and say "I was able to verify there is insurance in the vehicle, however oklahoma law states that I could tow the vehicle away without insurance" I think was incorrect.

Now that sounds like a question you could present to what people in this town grudgingly refer to as "crime reporters".

[sgrizzle]

correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression they could only tow your vehicle if they couldnt verify there was insurance on the car?  I understand the company vehicle I was in, didnt have the actual slip of paper, but we are self insured and he saw in that the computer.  For him to come back and say "I was able to verify there is insurance in the vehicle, however oklahoma law states that I could tow the vehicle away without insurance" I think was incorrect.  I couldnt find the exact statute, but are they able to tow the vehicle even after verifiying vehicle does have insurance, just not the form? I just cant imagine a police officer berating me over something so trivial when I was delivering hot meals to elderly citizens.  I plan on calling the DA's office on monday to discuss ticket further.

The citation is for "lack of proof of insurance" not "lack of insurance"

[Weatherdemon]

Hell, I got pulled over for, at first, was 70 in a 60 on 75 southbound north of downtown.
He asked if I knew the speed limit and I told him it was 65. He said, nope, it's 60.
OK.
So he brings the electronic deal over for me to sign and I do. He says he dropped it to 9 over so it wouldn't go against insurance.
I get to work, look at the ticket, and it's for 74 in a 65.

On my way to work the next day I double checked the speed limit. Yep, it was 65.
I was still speeding by 5 but had the officer known the speed limit I still wonder if I would've gotten pulled over.

[BKDotCom]

The citation is for "lack of proof of insurance" not "lack of insurance"

I don't understand why those little pieces of paper are considered "proof".
They're not proof of anything.  Just a handy piece of paper that says who your insurance carrier is and what your acct-# is.
Impossible to forge... and impossible to go to your insurance website and print out your own.

[patric]

Hell, I got pulled over for, at first, was 70 in a 60 on 75 southbound north of downtown.
He asked if I knew the speed limit and I told him it was 65. He said, nope, it's 60.
OK.
So he brings the electronic deal over for me to sign and I do. He says he dropped it to 9 over so it wouldn't go against insurance.
I get to work, look at the ticket, and it's for 74 in a 65.
On my way to work the next day I double checked the speed limit. Yep, it was 65.
I was still speeding by 5 but had the officer known the speed limit I still wonder if I would've gotten pulled over.

The citation was a Defective Instrument.   An honest judge would throw that one out.

[sauerkraut]

A "Rolling Stop" is sometimes called a "California Stop".. I heard the cops are doing a crack down on red light runners and are now putting a focus on left turners, issuing tickets if your too far out in the intersection and finish your left turn when the light goes red- I don't get that, your supposed to complete your turn you have to yeild to the on coming vehicles. Tulsa has been having a rash of shootings and the cops focus manpower on red light and traffic nonsense.

[patric]

I heard the cops are doing a crack down on red light runners and are now putting a focus on left turners, issuing tickets if your too far out in the intersection and finish your left turn when the light goes red- I don't get that, your supposed to complete your turn you have to yeild to the on coming vehicles. Tulsa has been having a rash of shootings and the cops focus manpower on red light and traffic nonsense.

I remember as a kid watching officers direct traffic at the big shopping centers before Christmas.
I never saw an accident while they were in complete control of the traffic.

Now there are grants that pay them to sit and wait for someone to get stuck in the intersection trying to make a left turn.
Seems like it worked better the old way.