Election Aftermath

[Townsend]

That would speak volumes to his demographic.

Please elaborate.

[DolfanBob]

Please elaborate.

Obama girl, Obama phone, Hollywood, and all the voting districts in Philadelphia etc. etc....

[Townsend]

Obama girl, Obama phone, Hollywood, and all the voting districts in Philadelphia etc. etc....

Is that the GOP view of his base?  That would explain mass quantities.

[guido911]

You're very welcome Guido.  I hope the article helps you realize how lost the party has become and allows you to do your part to make it better.

Is the party lost in Oklahoma? You know, where you live and are governed by directly? Last I heard the repubs did just fine if not better this election in this state. If you are talking nationally, I see no change since 2008, except they won North Carolina IIRC this go around. So I guess the republicans have been lost for the past four years--except for 2 years ago. 

I am 100% comfortable with my party's pro-life/anti-abortion message. I am also okay with lower taxes and stronger national defense. If that means I'm lost, oh well. 

In the opposite, if being "found" means supporting basically unfettered abortion rights, higher taxes, and weaker national defense, then, well, that's you and not where I want to be. Sorry.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Is the party lost in Oklahoma? You know, where you live and are governed by directly? Last I heard the repubs did just fine if not better this election in this state. If you are talking nationally, I see no change since 2008, except they won North Carolina IIRC this go around. So I guess the republicans have been lost for the past four years--except for 2 years ago. 

I am 100% comfortable with my party's pro-life/anti-abortion message. I am also okay with lower taxes and stronger national defense. If that means I'm lost, oh well. 

In the opposite, if being "found" means supporting basically unfettered abortion rights, higher taxes, and weaker national defense, then, well, that's you and not where I want to be. Sorry.

And in spite of Oklahoma's position in so many areas relative to the rest of the nation - you seem to be proud that we are near the bottom of those rankings/topics...


And the "jump to the extreme end" point of view - well, what can one say... yep, you will experience higher taxes - we all will - regardless of who is President.  Weaker national defense...?  Another one of those Murdochian "the orange sky is falling, chicken little nonsense rhymes they make up all the time.

[Townsend]

If that means I'm lost, oh well. 

Shame.  I was hopeful for you.

[guido911]

And in spite of Oklahoma's position in so many areas relative to the rest of the nation - you seem to be proud that we are near the bottom of those rankings/topics...


And the "jump to the extreme end" point of view - well, what can one say... yep, you will experience higher taxes - we all will - regardless of who is President.  Weaker national defense...?  Another one of those Murdochian "the orange sky is falling, chicken little nonsense rhymes they make up all the time.

Do you think using the word "Murdochian" improves your argument or makes you appear smarter? You sound like @ssclown. And since when is being pro-life, wanting lower taxes and a strong national defense the "extreme" end of anything. That's not extreme at all. Are you ashamed that your party is pro-abortion rights? Be proud of that position your party supports, don't run from it. Indeed, that was almost the democrat's central theme this election: The republican's "war on women", or have you forgotten.

Higher taxes for "all", you may be right. If the 47% that pay no federal taxes now wind up paying $.01 this go around, that's more.

[guido911]

And in spite of Oklahoma's position in so many areas relative to the rest of the nation - you seem to be proud that we are near the bottom of those rankings/topics...

I do not care what Mass., Calif., Ill. or the like is doing right now or where they are "ranked". Why would I? If you like what's happening there, go. Personally, I do not look to those states as the pinnacle of anything I want to be associated with. Oklahoma has it right with tort reform, life (except the death penalty IMO), and tax policy is improving.

As a whole, like it or not, this Oklahoma. The democrats controlled the state senate since Oklahoma became a state, until 2008. What happened? Did Oklahoma suddenly become a state of geniuses in 2007 to idiots in 2008? Most likely idiots to geniuses between 2007 and 2008.  . Taking a queue from T, the dem party is lost in this state.

[nathanm]

stronger national defense.

Stronger how? And how do you square that with lowering taxes further when we already have a gigantic budget deficit that you harp on pretty regularly?

[Red Arrow]

"I'm gonna wash that gray right outta my hair"

It's amazing what winning a big election can do for you.

[Hoss]

It's amazing what winning a big election can do for to you.

FIFY...

[Red Arrow]

FIFY...

It's amazing what winning a big election can do for to you.

Fixed what?  Maybe you don't have any grey hair yet.  You can't appreciate the idea that winning a big election can return your younger appearance?  We all know that isn't the real reason.

It's your turn to be without humor.  

[Townsend]

Is the party lost in Oklahoma?

Sadly, I think you mean this.  Of course it is.  The party is horribly lost here in Oklahoma.  So misled and struggling in its own misunderstanding of what would be best for the population of Oklahoma.


Education is a big one for me.  I know you've said everyone should pay their own way but I truly believe there are good reasons to provide education to those who can't afford it.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Do you think using the word "Murdochian" improves your argument or makes you appear smarter? You sound like @ssclown. And since when is being pro-life, wanting lower taxes and a strong national defense the "extreme" end of anything. That's not extreme at all. Are you ashamed that your party is pro-abortion rights? Be proud of that position your party supports, don't run from it. Indeed, that was almost the democrat's central theme this election: The republican's "war on women", or have you forgotten.

Higher taxes for "all", you may be right. If the 47% that pay no federal taxes now wind up paying $.01 this go around, that's more.

I use the word as a convenient descriptive term to sum up and cover all the ignorant, deceptive lies and in particular, their source - Rupert Murdoch just happening to be the most visible of the Decepticons, thereby lending his name to the cause - and the whole gamut of extremist right carp.  BUt you know that....and yet, attempt to deflect....

As for pro-life, I never mentioned that at all - another of your attempts at deflection and misdirection.  Lower taxes - same a pro-life.  What I mentioned was that hack traveling around in Murdochianville circles about somehow our national defense is being or gonna be hurt.  In spite of the facts.  The only times we have actually had a true reduction in our national defense capabilities was immediately after WWII, and for a very short window after VietNam.  Both of which were more of the nature of "taking a deep breath" after those efforts while planning the next move.  Neither constituted any kind of serious reduction in capability relative to the time frames of any possible threats and did not endanger us in any way.  It is a tired old hack that the Murdochians trot out every time they can't think of anything REAL to talk about - let's spew about "strong national defense"...  gag,...puke.  This is the mentality that talks about how we have so many fewer ships than when we went into WWI - as if one of our nuke subs doesn't replace about 150 of the 1918 ships!  No sense of history or reality in those quarters.  Or like Predator drone doesn't effectively replace at least one B-17 bomber and eliminate the risk to 10 men.

[heironymouspasparagus]

I do not care what Mass., Calif., Ill. or the like is doing right now or where they are "ranked". Why would I? If you like what's happening there, go. Personally, I do not look to those states as the pinnacle of anything I want to be associated with. Oklahoma has it right with tort reform, life (except the death penalty IMO), and tax policy is improving.

As a whole, like it or not, this Oklahoma. The democrats controlled the state senate since Oklahoma became a state, until 2008. What happened? Did Oklahoma suddenly become a state of geniuses in 2007 to idiots in 2008? Most likely idiots to geniuses between 2007 and 2008.  . Taking a queue from T, the dem party is lost in this state.

Don't want to be associated with those states as pinnacles of anything like education, health, standard of living (as relates to lower income).  Easy to see how all these things would satisfy some of the richer ones - their relative position of influence, etc is higher.  Medium fish/little pond....

Another example of "low <insert item here> being the problem, versus "low <insert item here> being the solution".
Wages, education, availability of health care, even road maintenance..., and yes, your precious "tort" reform - where now, no matter the egregious nature of action, the limit of damages is now what....$350,000?  Carte Blanche!!