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heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: guido911 on November 11, 2012, 03:01:31 PM

I am no fan of public education either. And I dare say I am better educated that you. I am better educated than many regulars in here.



Boom!!  Bam!!  Pow!!   Take that, public school graduates!!

Starting to sound like a Batman comic book around here.


"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: guido911 on November 11, 2012, 03:08:41 PM
Listen to these geniuses. They vote like you do.

And before you think about linking to a right wing loon to do the ol' straw man dance, remember, you are the one pushing how intelligent dem voters are.



Have you listened to the Mississippi right wing...nuts?  Or Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachman?

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

guido911

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on November 11, 2012, 03:11:30 PM

Have you listened to the Mississippi right wing...nuts?  Or Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachman?



Nothing in particular. Besides, what do they have to do with how better educated dem voters are? And as far as Bachmann goes, she has a JD and LL.M in tax. How does her education square up with yours? And I guess you just ignored the admonishing about straw man.

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on November 11, 2012, 03:09:02 PM

Boom!!  Bam!!  Pow!!   Take that, public school graduates!!

Starting to sound like a Batman comic book around here.




Translation: I got nothing.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on November 11, 2012, 03:09:02 PM



Starting to sound like a Batman comic book around here.




Now now, let's not drag in your reading level into this.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Teatownclown

Quote from: guido911 on November 11, 2012, 03:06:05 PM
Good thing I couldn't give less of a damn about you or where you live.

Mean spirited.  Over your head.... Which drug are you on?

Red Arrow

Quote from: Teatownclown on November 11, 2012, 03:05:07 PM
Not me...I live part time in Tralfamadore where I can exist freely outside of Dumbf@$kistan. The other half I live in denial.

Tralfamadore, Dumbf@$kistan and Denial.  I believe they are towns in SW Oklahoma next to Technicolor and Panavision where all the movies are filmed.
 

Red Arrow

Quote from: RecycleMichael on November 11, 2012, 02:52:33 PM
Is this your lame attempt to make the republicans look like winners?
Look at the scoreboard. Your party is losing.

Republicans lost this round for the office of POTUS.  My only point is that when looking at the popular vote, Democrats are not running away with the whole kit and kaboodle.
 

nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on November 11, 2012, 03:03:32 PM
Tell us again about your college experience since you apparently know so much about it.

I'm not the one making an assertion, so why don't you stick a sock in it?
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on November 11, 2012, 06:24:30 PM
I'm not the one making an assertion, so why don't you stick a sock in it?

QuotePlease step away from the Flavor Aid.

Is an assertion.

From my dictionary:
"a positive statement or declaration, often without support or reason."

I expect you don't see it that way but you need to accept (even if you don't understand) that others do see it that way.

 

nathanm

I guess it implies that there is Flavor Aid somewhere near your person.

That's clearly not what I was referring to, though. I was referring to your assertion that higher education indoctrinates politically liberal beliefs. Pretty funny given that the source of the present conservative movement is a "liberal" Ivy League school and their economic doctrine is straight out of another university. Am I just missing a joke?
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

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Quote from: nathanm on November 11, 2012, 08:26:22 PM
I guess it implies that there is Flavor Aid somewhere near your person.
Evidently in your opinion, not mine.  I will at least give you the honor of drinking the brand name Kool-Aid in your thoughts.

QuoteThat's clearly not what I was referring to, though.
Maybe in your mind.

QuoteI was referring to your assertion that higher education indoctrinates politically liberal beliefs.
Depends on your frame of reference.  

Edit: spelling correction
 

Red Arrow

Even though the definition may be technically incorrect, it may be time to renew the term "an effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals" as it applies to liberals as intended by Spiro Agnew.
 

nathanm

#133
Quote from: Red Arrow on November 11, 2012, 08:35:00 PM
I will at least give you the honor of drinking the brand name Kool-Aid in your thoughts.

Thanks, but I referenced Flavor Aid for a reason.

Quote
Depends on your frame of reference.  

It's got nothing to do with a frame of reference and everything to do with the fact that education, generally, doesn't indoctrinate a particular political view on the left-right spectrum. I provided examples that illustrate why I believe that to be the case. I do think that our education system generally does indoctrinate the normative neoliberal capitalist world view, but that's a product of that being the prevailing consensus and has absolutely nothing to do with educating people to be Republicans or Democrats.

It's a completely ridiculous assertion that flies in the face of some 51% of college graduates who voted voting for Romney, according to exit polling. If anything, the exit polling data shows exactly the opposite, at least below the postgraduate level. Romney got 33% of the vote among those who did not graduate high school, 48% of those who did graduate high school, 49% of those with an associate's degree, 51% among those who have a bachelor's degree, and 42% of those with a postgraduate degree.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on November 11, 2012, 09:27:18 PM
Thanks, but I referenced Flavor Aid for a reason.

The cult mass suicide?

QuoteIt's got nothing to do with a frame of reference and everything to do with the fact that education, generally, doesn't indoctrinate a particular political view on the left-right spectrum. I provided examples that illustrate why I believe that to be the case. I do think that our education system generally does indoctrinate the normative neoliberal capitalist world view, but that's a product of that being the prevailing consensus and has absolutely nothing to do with educating people to be Republicans or Democrats.

I'm sure you believe that.  I have seen enough of your examples to be skeptical. I don't think that the intention is Republican vs. Democrat so much as what the professors believe what is "correct".  Differing opinions are not allowed.

QuoteIt's a completely ridiculous assertion that flies in the face of some 51% of college graduates who voted voting for Romney, according to exit polling. If anything, the exit polling data shows exactly the opposite, at least below the postgraduate level. Romney got 33% of the vote among those who did not graduate high school, 48% of those who did graduate high school, 49% of those with an associate's degree, 51% among those who have a bachelor's degree, and 42% of those with a postgraduate degree.

So the problem is after the bachelor's degree where there is a closer relationship with the professors.