Election Aftermath

[nathanm]

The cult mass suicide?

Sparked by a misguided sense of persecution.

I'm sure you believe that.  I have seen enough of your examples to be skeptical. I don't think that the intention is Republican vs. Democrat so much as what the professors believe what is "correct".  Differing opinions are not allowed.

So the problem is after the bachelor's degree where there is a closer relationship with the professors.

Show some evidence that there's a lack of conservative-leaning college graduates and I'll be more inclined to take your claim more seriously.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Nothing in particular. Besides, what do they have to do with how better educated dem voters are? And as far as Bachmann goes, she has a JD and LL.M in tax. How does her education square up with yours? And I guess you just ignored the admonishing about straw man.

Well, apparently is not only squares up, but exceeds mightily.  Since I, in fact am able to read.  And have read the US Constitution...a simple feat that, by so many of her public pronouncements, eludes her.

Straw men...wonderful creations.  Useful on so many levels, and use in practical application by the expression "grasping at straws..."

[heironymouspasparagus]

Now now, let's not drag in your reading level into this.

Kapow!!

[Red Arrow]

Show some evidence that there's a lack of conservative-leaning college graduates and I'll be more inclined to take your claim more seriously.

I'm going to have to spin this one back at you.  Show me some evidence that there is a significant proportion of conservative leaning college graduates compared to liberals.  That's outside of Oklahoma and the other severely Red states.  Include places like the Northeast, Northwest, California....

[nathanm]

I'm going to have to spin this one back at you.  Show me some evidence that there is a significant proportion of conservative leaning college graduates compared to liberals.  That's outside of Oklahoma and the other severely Red states.  Include places like the Northeast, Northwest, California....

You made the assertion that colleges indoctrinate people into politically liberal thought, not me. The burden is on you. I already provided data that backs up my claim that you had no evidence. Feel free to refute it. Unfortunately, there was limited exit polling this cycle, so you'll have to look at pre-election telephone polls or find some other source of data on the subject if you want to know specifically about California or other typically "liberal" states.

[Conan71]

This election was clearly a mandate. Obama won high numbers of independents and in virtually every demographic except white males. Democrats have won five of the last six popular votes for president. America is choosing the democrat message and it clearly shows.

Oklahoma doesn't agree, and it will keep our state behind the rest of the country in my opinion.

When nearly half the nation voted against Obama and he received about 7 million fewer votes than in 2008, that's not a mandate.  From what I've read about 11 million voters stayed home this time, rather than trying to make less of a poor choice.  His margin of victory dropped from 7.2% in 2008 to 2.9% this year.  Clearly, he's lost some support and the enthusiasm for him has waned.

[Hoss]

When nearly half the nation voted against Obama and he received about 7 million fewer votes than in 2008, that's not a mandate.  From what I've read about 11 million voters stayed home this time, rather than trying to make less of a poor choice.  His margin of victory dropped from 7.2% in 2008 to 2.9% this year.  Clearly, he's lost some support and the enthusiasm for him has waned.

But yet the Republican pundits saying that 320 in the EC for Romney (when they were predicting that) would be called a mandate.

I understand where you are coming from, but the right wingers calling 320 a mandate when they thought their guy had it, as opposed to the 322 when the evil overlord got it is...well, it's predictable if nothing else.

[Conan71]

But yet the Republican pundits saying that 320 in the EC for Romney (when they were predicting that) would be called a mandate.

I understand where you are coming from, but the right wingers calling 320 a mandate when they thought their guy had it, as opposed to the 322 when the evil overlord got it is...well, it's predictable if nothing else.

I don't give a smile what right leaning or left leaning pundits were or are saying.  Basic math tells you this was no "resounding" victory as I've heard it called on various media outlets. 

[nathanm]

I don't give a smile what right leaning or left leaning pundits were or are saying.  Basic math tells you this was no "resounding" victory as I've heard it called on various media outlets. 

I don't disagree in the abstract, but by the standard commonly applied by Republicans, it was indeed a resounding victory with a clear mandate. They did, after all, claim a mandate when they lost the popular vote and when they won in 2004 by about the same margin Obama has this year. Both Bush wins also netted him less EVs than either Obama win. You've gotta admit there's something mildly satisfying about stuffing pundits' words back down their smarmy throats and making them choke on them.

[Townsend]

Guy With Mitt Face Tattoo 'Disappointed'

Big surprise: A man who got a giant tattoo of Mitt Romney's campaign logo on his face is "totally disappointed" with the election results. "I'm the guy who has egg all over his face," Eric Hartsburg tell Politico. "But instead of egg, it's a big Romney/Ryan tattoo. It's there for life." Hartsburg raised $5,000 on eBay for the 5-by-2 inch tat. Now, he claims he has no regrets. "I'm hoping this opens some other doors in the entertainment business," he says.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/11/12/guy-with-mitt-face-tattoo-disappointed.html

[Conan71]

I don't disagree in the abstract, but by the standard commonly applied by Republicans, it was indeed a resounding victory with a clear mandate. They did, after all, claim a mandate when they lost the popular vote and when they won in 2004 by about the same margin Obama has this year. Both Bush wins also netted him less EVs than either Obama win. You've gotta admit there's something mildly satisfying about stuffing pundits' words back down their smarmy throats and making them choke on them.

I don't recall anyone calling either Bush victory a "mandate".  I do recall the '06 mid-terms and '10 mid-terms "mandates".

[Gaspar]

I don't recall anyone calling either Bush victory a "mandate".  I do recall the '06 mid-terms and '10 mid-terms "mandates".

No.  In fact I think they called it fraud.

[nathanm]

I don't recall anyone calling either Bush victory a "mandate".  I do recall the '06 mid-terms and '10 mid-terms "mandates".

Maybe smoke less dope?

In any event, this search should refresh your memory. I also seem to recall a statement from Bush himself that the '04 election had given him political capital that he intended to spend.

Edited to add: Gassy, 2000 was fraud. 2004 was swift boating and the advantage of incumbency.

[Townsend]

Interesting pic I saw on FB:

The map we're used to seeing exaggerates the size of the Republican vote, since there are a lot of red states that are large in area but small in population. In this cartogram, where 1 square = 1 electoral vote

[Hoss]

Holy crap.  They signed a no-tax pledge for THIS tool?

Wow.  "Poopy-head".  Seriously, Grover?

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50134980n