Election Aftermath

[Red Arrow]

The real hate toward Romney came from Rick Perry, Newt Gingrich and even locals like Michael Bates.

I would say the hate toward Romney from the left was genuine and plentiful.

[Hoss]

I would say the hate toward Romney from the left was genuine and plentiful.

That turnabout - it's a grumble.

[Red Arrow]

That turnabout - it's a grumble.

Call it a turnabout if you wish but I believe it was real.

[Hoss]

Call it a turnabout if you wish but I believe it was real.

Don't pretend it wasn't real from the Republican side. But I guess you probably will.

[nathanm]

After all the hate spewed toward Romney during the campaign

Vehement disagreement and hate are two different things.

[Ed W]

I would say the hate toward Romney from the left was genuine and plentiful.

Red, can you provide some examples of hate speech directed at Mr. Romney?  I'm not being snarky in asking this.  I truly cannot think of any examples.

[Red Arrow]

Don't pretend it wasn't real from the Republican side. But I guess you probably will.

During the primaries, yes there was.  Just the same as there was in the Democratic party 4 years ago.  How much really goes away after the conventions?  I don't know.

Edit:

I almost forgot.  You are about as good as analyzing me as some of you claim Gaspar is in prognostication.

[Red Arrow]

Vehement disagreement and hate are two different things.

Got it. Against Republicans and conservatives in general: vehement disagreement.  Against Democrats and liberals in general: hate.

Also, there can be no disagreement with a minority.  It is by definition, hate.

[Red Arrow]

Red, can you provide some examples of hate speech directed at Mr. Romney?  I'm not being snarky in asking this.  I truly cannot think of any examples.

I didn't say hate speech.  I believe there was an attitude of hate by liberals toward Romney.  I disagree with Nathan's analysis of the objection to Romney  being merely "Vehement disagreement".  Many of the posts here during the campaign were not hate speech but it was obviously more than vehement disagreement in my opinion.  Feel free to look through all the posts of the last year.  There may have been some infrequent bursts of hate speech by idiots on both sides of politics.

I am not going to spend the time looking for the equivalent of some idiots calling the President the "n" word. 

I am not being snarky either.

[Ed W]

I didn't say hate speech.  I believe there was an attitude of hate by liberals toward Romney.  I disagree with Nathan's analysis of the objection to Romney  being merely "Vehement disagreement".  Many of the posts here during the campaign were not hate speech but it was obviously more than vehement disagreement in my opinion.  Feel free to look through all the posts of the last year.  There may have been some infrequent bursts of hate speech by idiots on both sides of politics.

I am not going to spend the time looking for the equivalent of some idiots calling the President the "n" word. 

I am not being snarky either.

I stand corrected. And I have to tell you that I'm not good at discerning the attitude behind someone's words, unless they're remarkably blunt about it.  Subtlety is not one of my strong points.

[RecycleMichael]

I didn't hate Romney. I just posted about what a bully he was in high school, how he laughed about what I considered animal abuse, how he hid his money in the Cayman Islands, how his equity firm destroyed jobs for profit, and refused to show his income taxes for the years he wasn't running for president.

There was no hate by me, just a certainty that these actions were going to cost him the election.

Hate is the 30 minute movie shown by Newt Gingrich during the primary. Hate is what Rick Perry and Rick Santorum said about him.

[Red Arrow]

I didn't hate Romney. I just posted about what a bully he was in high school, how he laughed about what I considered animal abuse, how he hid his money in the Cayman Islands, how his equity firm destroyed jobs for profit, and refused to show his income taxes for the years he wasn't running for president.
There was no hate by me,

You obviously fooled me.

[RecycleMichael]

Yes, there is a big difference in not supporting a candidate and hating them. There are very few people in politics I hate. I thought Romney was a good father and very generous with his money. I admire those qualities.

[Townsend]

One last Flip Flop:

Man to Remove Romney Face Tattoo



http://news.yahoo.com/wrestler-romney-face-tattoo-removed-175257435--abc-news-politics.html

Two weeks after telling ABC News he did not " regret the tattoo at all" the man who got the Romney 'R' logo tattooed on his face for an eBay bid of $15,000 has changed his mind.

"I had a little change of heart," Eric Hartsburg confessed, saying he will now have the tattoo removed.

Hartsburg said he could live with touting the logo of a losing candidate, but what pushed him over the edge were Romney's comments that President Obama won the election by giving "gifts" to certain constituencies.

"I could deal with being a part of a losing campaign, but to still stand behind Gov. Romney with the positions he's taken post-election with the blame game instead," Hartsburg said. "To be such a sore loser about it, to me I can't walk around representing that."

The tattoo was meant to make politics more fun, Hartsburg said, but since Romney made those remarks strangers have been shouting lewd comments and hissing at Hartsburg on the street.

He said he could defend Romney's policies - not his post-election behavior.

The tattoo removal process could take up to 15 sessions over a period of six months to a year, longer than usual because of the blue ink in the logo.

Hartsburg has agreed to take up Will Kirby of Dr. TATTOFF on his offer to remove the ink for free. The Dr. TATTOFF website lists most removals as costing $98 per treatment.

Hartsburg said he found the removal process "a little terrifying," but he's more scared about the flight to Los Angeles, where he will have his first consultation with Dr. Kirby.

Hartsburg will be able to have subsequent sessions at offices around the country, so it won't slow down a professional wrestling career that he is hoping to transition into a role in the entertainment industry.

After all is said and done, Hartsburg hopes ditching the tattoo won't hamper his rise to fame, instead allowing him to "be more than just the tattoo face guy."

[Townsend]

Ann Romney Might Be Taking This Loss Harder Than Mitt

http://news.yahoo.com/ann-romney-might-taking-loss-harder-mitt-231529114.html

If you're wondering how the Romney family is holding up post-election loss, the answer is: not well. Mitt has resorted to retail therapy, and Ann might be the most disappointed Romney of all. 

The Washington Post's Phillip Rucker has a furiously reported update on what, exactly, Mitt is doing with all of his free time now that he isn't running a campaign. The answer? Not much. The Atlantic's Molly Ball probably put it best on Twitter: "Mitt Romney is bored." 

Rucker's report is filled with heartbreaking line after heartbreaking line chronicling what Romney is doing with himself, culled straight from the CEOs closest to him. That is, what Mitt's doing when he's not having lunch with the President. To help himself deal with the loss, Mitt apparently bought himself (or has been seen driving, at least), "a new black Audi Q7, a luxury SUV manufactured in Slovakia." Retail therapy is an effective and frequently used coping mechanism, at least for this writer. He apparently hasn't decided what he'll do next, but one thing is for sure: "In private, Romney has told friends he has little interest in helping the Republican Party rebuild and rebrand itself," Rucker reports. 

But the owner of the most tragic anecdote in the whole story is Mitt's wife, Ann, who really isn't taking things well: 

     By all accounts, the past month has been most difficult on Romney's wife, Ann, who friends said believed up until the end that ascending to the White House was their destiny. They said she has been crying in private    and trying to get back to riding her horses.

It's not too much of a surprise, really. She had enough trouble dealing with the campaign. Still, we feel for her, and wish her and her horses the best. It gets better.