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Hugo Chavez possibly shuffling off this mortal coil

Started by Townsend, December 13, 2012, 05:03:56 PM

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Townsend

Chavez Suffers Surgery Complications

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/12/13/chavez-suffers-surgery-complications.html

Quoteenezuelan leader Hugo Chavez might have promised too much with his "21st Century Socialism" project that won him reelection two months ago. On Thursday, the ailing leader suffered from bleeding after a six-hour surgery, which was the fourth operation he's undergone in the last year to fight a cancer diagnosis. "This process of recovery will take time because of the complexity of the operation," Information Minister Ernesto Villegas said. "The patient is in a progressive and favorable recovery of normal vital signs." Another ominous sign came on Saturday, when Chavez appointed an heir apparent—just in case. Venezuelans fearing the worst have organized prayer vigils for Chavez's health.

The "heir apparent" caught my attention.

Teatownclown

Gaspar and Guido made fun of Obama's meeting in 2009 with Chavez. Little did they know POTUS put the voodoo on him!

Conan71

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

guido911

Quote from: Conan71 on December 13, 2012, 08:58:23 PM
What are the odds the "heir apparent's" initials are SP?

Don't rip on Sarah Palin now...:)
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Townsend


Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on December 13, 2012, 09:32:13 PM
That might work.  Drill baby, drill.

I wonder if Todd Palin has ever had that screamed into his ear.

Sorry, the pain meds made me do that...
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

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Townsend

Disputes Brewing Over Hugo Chavez's Inauguration

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/disputes-brewing-over-hugo-chavezs-inauguration

QuoteCARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — President Hugo Chavez is due to be sworn in for a new term in less than a week and his closest allies still aren't saying what they plan to do if the ailing leader is unable to return from a Cuban hospital to take the oath of office.

Chavez hasn't been seen or heard from since his Dec. 11 cancer surgery, and speculation has grown that his illness could be reaching its final stages. The president's elder brother Adan joined a parade of visitors to Havana this week, while the vice president apparently delayed plans to return home after at least two bedside visits with Chavez. The government has provided few details but describes Chavez's condition as "delicate."

His health crisis has raised contentious questions ahead of the swearing-in set for Jan. 10, including whether the inauguration could legally be postponed, whether Supreme Court justices might travel to Havana to administer the oath of office, and, most of all, what will happen if Chavez can't begin his new term.

The main fault lines run between Chavez's backers and opponents.

But while the president's allies so far appear united, analysts have speculated that differences might emerge between factions led by Nicolas Maduro, Chavez's chosen successor and vice president, and Diosdado Cabello, the president of the National Assembly, who is thought to wield power within the military and who would be in line to temporarily assume the presidency until a new election can be held.

Cabello has dismissed rumors of any discord within the socialist party and issued a Twitter message Wednesday asserting "the unbreakable will of revolutionary unity."

"We Chavistas are very clear on what we will do," he said in another message, telling the opposition it should "take care of what you all will do."

But as of Thursday, the plans of Chavez's allies remained a mystery.

The Venezuelan Constitution says the presidential oath should be taken Jan. 10 before the National Assembly, and officials have raised the possibility that Chavez might not be well enough to do that, without saying what will happen if he can't.

Chavez said before his fourth cancer-related operation that if his illness prevented him from remaining president, Maduro should finish his current term and be his party's candidate to replace him in a new election.

The constitution says that if a president or president-elect dies or is declared unable to continue in office, presidential powers should be held temporarily by the president of the National Assembly, who is now Cabello. It says a new presidential vote should be held within 30 days.

Opposition leaders have argued that Chavez, who was re-elected to a six-year term in October, seems no longer fit to continue as president and have demanded that a new election be held within 30 days if he isn't in Caracas on inauguration day.

"On Jan. 10 the current presidential term ends and another begins," opposition leader Ramon Guillermo Aveledo said Wednesday. "If the president-elect can't attend the swearing-in for reasons related to his health ... the president of the National Assembly should temporarily take charge of the presidency."

But some of Chavez's close confidants dismiss the view that the inauguration date is a hard deadline, saying Chavez could be given more time to recover from his surgery if necessary.

Cabello noted last month that the constitution says if a president is unable to be sworn in by the legislature, he may be sworn in by Supreme Court justices, who were appointed by the mostly pro-Chavez legislature.

"When? It doesn't say. Where? It doesn't say where," Cabello recently told a crowd of government supporters. His indication that the constitution does not specify where a president-elect should be sworn in by the Supreme Court has led to speculation that justices could travel to Cuba for the ceremony.

Opposition leaders chafe at the suggestion that Chavez could take office from a foreign country, saying the president made it clear before he left for the operation that his health was deteriorating by designating Maduro as his successor.

Aristobulo Isturiz, a state governor and leader of Chavez's United Socialist Party of Venezuela, said Thursday that if Chavez's swearing-in isn't held Jan. 10, it will be up to the Supreme Court to determine the place and date of the ceremony.

"The president has a right to recover," Isturiz said in remarks published by the state-run Venezuelan News Agency.

More than three weeks after Chavez's cancer surgery, government officials have been providing vague and shifting updates on his condition. Maduro announced over the weekend that Chavez had suffered complications due to a respiratory infection and was in "delicate" condition.

Caracas Mayor Antonio Ledezma, an opposition politician, proposed that a commission travel to Cuba to determine the state of Chavez's health. He said the delegation should be made up of doctors, lawmakers and other officials such as state governors, including opposition leader Henrique Capriles.

"I'm not asking for permission to go to Cuba. I think it's our right to go there and see what's going on," Ledezma said Thursday in comments reported by the television channel Globovision. "Enough mysteries. Venezuela isn't a colony of Cuba."

Some of the brewing disagreements could begin to be aired Saturday, when the National Assembly, which is controlled by a pro-Chavez majority, convenes to select legislative leaders. That session will be held just five days before the scheduled inauguration day.

Law professor Vicente Gonzalez de la Vega agrees with Cabello's view that the constitution is ambiguous regarding the time and place of a swearing-in ceremony before the Supreme Court.

Supreme Court President Luisa Estella Morales said following Cabello's proposal last month that justices could rule on whether it's constitutional to postpone the date of the swearing-in ceremony. The issue has not yet been brought before the court, but Morales said Dec. 20 that the court could take up such issues if asked and would have the final word.

The constitutional conundrum facing the country has additional complexities, said Gonzalez, a constitutional scholar and professor at the Central University of Venezuela.

Before Chavez's inauguration date could be postponed, Gonzalez said, lawmakers would have to approve a 90-day extension of Chavez's "temporary absence" granted for his trip to Cuba for surgery. The president of the National Assembly would then be sworn in as an interim president for 90 days, Gonzalez said.

In order for that to occur, though, Gonzalez said the Supreme Court would need to appoint a panel of doctors to examine Chavez to determine whether his health could improve and whether he might be capable of continuing his duties as president.

"If a temporary absence is going to be declared, the medical team will have to determine that it's not about an absolute absence: That is to say that the president has the possibility of recuperating," Gonzalez said.

Information Minister Ernesto Villegas released a letter Thursday saying the opposition-aligned television channel Globovision had erroneously referred to Maduro as the "acting president" and calling for a correction. Villegas said in Wednesday's letter to station Vice President Maria Fernanda Flores that he wanted to remind her "Hugo Chavez is the only president" in office.

Aveledo reiterated the opposition's demand for the government to provide a full medical report.

He said sending a medical team to Cuba to assess Chavez's condition would be an option, if necessary. In the meantime, he said, "There are two keys here to facing this and any situation, which are the truth and the constitution."

Townsend

Venezuela's Chavez clings to life, vice president says

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/28/17133991-venezuelas-chavez-clings-to-life-vice-president-says?lite

QuoteVenezuelan President Hugo Chavez is clinging to life, according to the country's vice president.

"The commander is fighting for his health, for his life," Nicolas Madura said on national TV Thursday.

The statement comes 10 days after Chavez returned to Venezuela from Cuba where he had received two months of treatment for his most recent bout with cancer. It was the clearest public indication to date of the severity of the president's condition.

Upon his return to his home country, Chavez was transported to a hospital in the nation's capital, Caracas.

Madura's statement on Thursday contradicted earlier press reports that the populist leader had died but signaled that the prognosis was grim.

Chavez disappeared from the public eye in December to be treated for cancer, but Venezuelans have not been informed of what type of cancer he suffers from, nor the severity. The president was too ill to attend his inauguration in January.

The president has made repeated trips to Cuba for treatment since 2011 and had not apparently cultivated a protégé to succeed him, sparking criticism that he had created a power vacuum.

The former paratrooper, who has been in power since 1999, has been a thorn in the side of Washington, espousing leftist and anti-American policies, and maintaining close ties with Havana.

Gaspar

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

heironymouspasparagus

#12
Quote from: guido911 on February 28, 2013, 05:42:52 PM
What is he doing with that hand?


Someone stole his blunt about 3 minutes earlier and he hadn't time to react at the time the picture was taken.... who says marijuana isn't good for ya...???

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Conan71 on December 15, 2012, 10:48:56 AM
I wonder if Todd Palin has ever had that screamed into his ear.

Sorry, the pain meds made me do that...


No screaming.  Remember the scene in M*A*S*H where Donald Sutherland is making noises that he thinks Hot Lips might make....

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Gaspar

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.