Mass Shootings the last six months

[heironymouspasparagus]

Weird coincidence?

Man Shot By Security Guard After Robbing Tulsa Credit Union
Posted: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:09 PM EST Updated: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:48 PM EST

TULSA, Oklahoma - A man was shot after holding up a TTCU branch Wednesday, police say. TPD says that security guard fired several shots at the suspect, hitting him at least once.
Police say a man with a gun hopped the counter, demanded cash and left with an undisclosed amount of money.
But once the suspect made it outside, police say he was met by a retired Tulsa Police officer, who now works on site as a security guard.
"The individual was shot at several times by an off-duty security officer, who was working inside the bank," Officer Leland Ashley said.
A tree out front was marked by two stray bullets, and a customer's windshield also took a hit. The car's owner was inside the credit union when the shots were fired.  http://www.newson6.com/story/20660915/tulsa-police-man-shot-while-robbing-credit-union-on-pine

Makes one of my points - more target practice needed!  Well, two, then...and better (bigger) bullets!

[DolfanBob]

This man is asking the same question that I have been asking. And look at the response he got. Don't just shout the blanket answer. Explain why.......You can't.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2269910/Parents-children-slain-Newtown-school-shooting-beg-legislators-stricter-gun-control.html

[RecycleMichael]

Gun people can be real a$$holes.

[Red Arrow]

Gun people can be real a$$holes.

Fixed it.

[Gaspar]

The constitution will survive this president.  He has not actually posed any gun control laws, or any executive orders that infringe on gun owner rights.  As with everything else, he has thrown suggestions and recommendations out into the ether and let those least equipped to address the problems take the lead.

The constitution will survive President Obama.  It will survive this congress.  The only threat comes from time, because eventually the growing masses of the historically ignorant will greatly outnumber the rest of us, and they will demand the bonds of slavery in order to shield themselves from the perils, difficulties, and responsibilities of liberty.



In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, "Make us your slaves, but feed us." – Dosteovsky

The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves. – Dresden James

To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them. – George Mason

A people incapable of protecting themselves will lose their rights as a free people, becoming either servile dependents of the state or of the criminal predators who are their de facto masters. – Robert Cottrol, George Washington University law professor

It is sobering to reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. – Charles A. Beard

[Townsend]

The only threat comes from time, because eventually the growing masses of the historically ignorant will greatly outnumber the rest of us, and they will demand the bonds of slavery in order to shield themselves from the perils, difficulties, and responsibilities of liberty.

Both sides claim this to be true about the other.

[Hoss]

The constitution will survive this president.  He has not actually posed any gun control laws, or any executive orders that infringe on gun owner rights.  As with everything else, he has thrown suggestions and recommendations out into the ether and let those least equipped to address the problems take the lead.

The constitution will survive President Obama.  It will survive this congress.  The only threat comes from time, because eventually the growing masses of the historically ignorant will greatly outnumber the rest of us, and they will demand the bonds of slavery in order to shield themselves from the perils, difficulties, and responsibilities of liberty.



In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, "Make us your slaves, but feed us." – Dosteovsky

The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves. – Dresden James

To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them. – George Mason

A people incapable of protecting themselves will lose their rights as a free people, becoming either servile dependents of the state or of the criminal predators who are their de facto masters. – Robert Cottrol, George Washington University law professor

It is sobering to reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. – Charles A. Beard

I'm betting Discovery channel has contacted you about being a subject on "Hardcore Preppers", or whatever that show is.

[Gaspar]

Both sides claim this to be true about the other.

There are more than two sides.

[Townsend]

There are more than two sides.

Not according to the two sides.

[Conan71]

This man is asking the same question that I have been asking. And look at the response he got. Don't just shout the blanket answer. Explain why.......You can't.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2269910/Parents-children-slain-Newtown-school-shooting-beg-legislators-stricter-gun-control.html

The few hecklers who have no sense of taste don't define an entire group, much as the people who show up at Tea Party rallies wearing side arms don't typify the entire GOP much as MSNBC or HuffPo would love for people to think.

Best comment of the whole article:

Mark Mattioli, whose 6-year-old son James was killed at Sandy Hook, got a standing ovation when he said there are plenty of gun laws but they're not properly enforced.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2269910/Parents-children-slain-Newtown-school-shooting-beg-legislators-stricter-gun-control.html#ixzz2JO9FEnEv
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In terms of better enforcement, I honestly don't know how you enforce them any better than they are already.  I'm not sure how they could have prevented Lanza's mother from having banned weapons in her possession short of having a border patrol and checking every single vehicle which comes and goes from the state for banned weapons.  She was a complete idiot for having weapons in her house like that with a child she knew was off the hinges crazy.

[heironymouspasparagus]

This man is asking the same question that I have been asking. And look at the response he got. Don't just shout the blanket answer. Explain why.......You can't.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2269910/Parents-children-slain-Newtown-school-shooting-beg-legislators-stricter-gun-control.html

OR you can go to the reality and see that no such thing happened at all.  But ya gotta watch the UNEDITED version - not the MSNBC EDITED with not-so-hidden-agenda behind it.  But that wouldn't play to the audience as desired, would it?

Question being, why does anyone need a 30 round magazine...  It has been answered.  Because I want one.  That's all the answer needed.  It I wanted a machine gun, and was willing to jump through the hoops and pay the fees, no other rationalization or answer is needed (or ever sufficient to the Brady Bunch Organization).  I, along with the other 90 + million law abiding gun owners in this country have a wide variety of reasons for wanting or needing to own a gun.  As long as we ARE law abiding gun owners, no other explanation is needed beyond the fact that we want to.

Much like a Miami Dolphins fan can select to support their team with NO obligation to rationalize it to anyone else.  It's because you want to.  If you wanted to change - well, that may be a more rational choice, but it really doesn't matter at all, as long as it is what YOU want.  And you are not committing any crimes in the enjoyment of your favorite sport and/or team.  And no matter what the rest of the country may think, it is not really a crime (yet) to be a Dolphins fan.


UN-edited version - the one that shows the lie to the carp about Heslin being "heckled".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_wKQaWUMGE&feature=player_embedded

[heironymouspasparagus]

Gun people can be real a$$holes.

You are usually thorough and prone to finding out the reality before jumping on a bandwagon.  What happened in this instance??

See the link to the unedited video above.

And then, I just gotta know - how is that edited carp any different from what that clown did with the Acorn videos??

[RecycleMichael]

Question being, why does anyone need a 30 round magazine...  It has been answered.  Because I want one.  That's all the answer needed.  

But I don't want you to have one. That is all the answer I need.

If you want a rifle that propels grenades, you don't get one. That has been determined to be a reasonable restriction on weapon ownership. You can say you want one all you want, but that doesn't matter.

I have a right to life and liberty. Your wants don't trump my rights.

[Teatownclown]

Heir, what rulings has SCOTUS made in favor of regulating arms and ammo?

[Teatownclown]

But I don't want you to have one. That is all the answer I need.

If you want a rifle that propels grenades, you don't get one. That has been determined to be a reasonable restriction on weapon ownership. You can say you want one all you want, but that doesn't matter.

I have a right to life and liberty. Your wants don't trump my rights.

Missile launchers for God's sake. I want my missile launcher! http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/29/1508251/gun-buyback-missile-launcher/

I think this is what our founding fathers had in mind!