Efforts to Rename Brady Arts District

[Red Arrow]

Do you really think someone is going to pay for monuments running down Tate Brady?

You obviously have some strong personal feelings about this.  You could start a fund to erect such a monument.

[sauerkraut]

I favor leaving it as it is. What's done is done.

[Hoss]

I favor leaving it as it is. What's done is done.

Well...glad that's settled.

[RecycleMichael]

I favor leaving it as it is. What's done is done.

More proof that I am on the right side of this.

[Conan71]

Do you really think someone is going to pay for monuments running down Tate Brady? And wouldn't such a monument just do more to honor him?

Are their examples of such plaques elsewhere?

Maybe I just missed the statues about Bernie Madoff, (he gave big bucks to charity), Pete Rose (most hits ever in baseball), and Woody Allen (a house full of Academy Awards).

Do you really expect small businesses located along Brady Street to have to pay for new signage, stationery, business cards, sales slicks, and any other materials they may have with an address printed on it?  What about the inconvenience of needing to change account information and any legal documents?  All this for the sake of appeasing a very small group of people who really wouldn't have cared in the first place if some columnist with a personal agenda hadn't stirred this bucket in the first place.

Even though my family did not live here at the time, I'm sorry and ashamed the race riots happened in Tulsa 90+ years ago.  I still see no reason current inhabitants of the "district" or who are located on Brady Street should be inconvenienced to appease the feelings of a very small minority.  People need to quit looking for something to be offended by all the damn time.

[RecycleMichael]

Do you really expect small businesses located along Brady Street to have to pay for new signage, stationery, business cards, sales slicks, and any other materials they may have with an address printed on it?  What about the inconvenience of needing to change account information and any legal documents?  

Was this a factor in the new interstate 44? Dozens of businesses were forced to move. I suppose we shouldn't build anything that inconveniences a few small businesses.

We change names all the time. Boulder Park became Veteran's Park and Central Park became Centennial Park recently. I posted 200 examples in Tulsa's history earlier. Philbrook school of Art became Philbrook Museum in 1987. Southwestern Bell became AT&T.

Most wives take the husband's name upon marriage. I am sure the inconvenience of needing to change account information and legal documents don't stop them.

[BKDotCom]

Was this a factor in the new interstate 44? Dozens of businesses were forced to move. I suppose we shouldn't build anything that inconveniences a few small businesses.

Apples and oranges..  physically moving a business due to an actual need.   in the case of I-44, I'm sure the US government gave the businesses in the imminent domain a more than fair price.
vs   changing a street sign, legal documents, signage, stationary for warm fuzzys

We change names all the time. Boulder Park became Veteran's Park and Central Park became Centennial Park recently. I posted 200 examples in Tulsa's history earlier. Philbrook school of Art became Philbrook Museum in 1987. Southwestern Bell became AT&T.

how many homes and businesses were affected by changing the name of a park?
how many of the 200 examples were part of the 1901 street survey, stardardization & gridification.  the same year Brady street got its name.
Who forced Philbrook school of art to change its name?
I originally bought my cell phone via AT&T in 1998.   
    Then it became Cingular
    Then it became AT&T.
    Cingular again?
    Then back to AT&T.
If those geniuses at AT&T think changing their name all the time is good business.  Good for them.

Most wives take the husband's name upon marriage. I am sure the inconvenience of needing to change account information and legal documents don't stop them.

There are a lot of weird marriage traditions.   But the times, they are a changing.
If the husband, tells his fiance.  Change your name, "or else".   I'm guessing there's a good chance, she'll opt for "or else"
The adoption of the husbands name signifies a "union."   This street thing is a "or else" demand.

[TulsaRufnex]

I dunno.  It wouldn't hurt my feelings if we renamed it the "Tulsa Arts District"...
Maybe just in the district rename Brady St, "Artists Street."  Wouldn't start with the letter "B" but it would stack up nicely with "Archer" to the south and "Cameron Street" to the north...
Since I live on West Brady Street, it'd be a pretty big hassle to change all my checking, credit cards, bills, etc... and I guess we'd need to change Brady Heights too...

Compromise solution:  name the district after "Wayne Brady"... or would that be cheating?

[AquaMan]

"B" Street.

The "B" district.

[RecycleMichael]

"B" Street.

The "B" district.

I like it. We can say it was named after Aunt B from the old Andy Griffith show.

My mother was a stunt double for her. Whenever you saw Aunt B jumping a fence or in a bar fight, that was my Mom.

[Townsend]

The adoption of the husbands name signifies a "union."   

Exchange of property.

[Gaspar]

In lieu of attacking something that appears to be mere grandstanding why don't these individuals work for real change?

Because "Causes" are easy and moral superiority "feels" good.  If you can yell about it, print stickers, or handbills you get an instant feeling of accomplishment and superiority.

"Look at me, I'm the bringer of light."

If you ever make the mistake of hiring someone with 20 bumper-stickers, you quickly learn that they are far more comfortable moaning and groaning than they are at working. They are better at decrying all of the bad around them than they are at creating any good.  They have an intense need to express their moral or perceived intellectual superiority.  It is almost impossible to refocus them.

When it comes to media, especially young media offerings (new companies), the drive to "make a mark" is far more powerful than the reasoning behind the cause, solid facts, or any repercussions.  The fact that we are discussing it (positive and negatively) is collateral for them.  For example, Matt Drudge had(s) an atrocious defamatory website that any 12yo with a Mac could create.  All it did was aggregate news stories that he agreed with, and sensationalize headlines.  Because of that formula, he has 2 million unique views a day, and tens of millions of daily viewers.  This Land Press writes some very in-depth stories and employs good photography.  The format is very different than Drudge, however the goal is the same.  As a media outlet they have lots of opportunity in sensationalizing stories about the history of Oklahoma (there's plenty of ammo). This gives them the power to stir tensions, and motivate new causes.  It is not a new formula for success in media, and you can't blame them for it. When something as powerful as renaming a city street comes around, expect them to latch on like a tick.  If successful, it would be an accomplishment that would elevate them from a marginal publisher to the top tier, and garner national coverage.

[Conan71]

I dunno.  It wouldn't hurt my feelings if we renamed it the "Tulsa Arts District"...
Maybe just in the district rename Brady St, "Artists Street."  Wouldn't start with the letter "B" but it would stack up nicely with "Archer" to the south and "Cameron Street" to the north...
Since I live on West Brady Street, it'd be a pretty big hassle to change all my checking, credit cards, bills, etc... and I guess we'd need to change Brady Heights too...

Compromise solution:  name the district after "Wayne Brady"... or would that be cheating?

I hadn't even thought of residents who live on Brady Street to the west of downtown.  Checking the maps, it looks as if it runs out to Sand Springs, if a bit intermittently.  It also re-apears out near Catoosa.

RM, my question is: When will people who were not victims of the race riot quit demanding additional reparations from people who did not perpetrate the race riot?

[BKDotCom]

It would be interesting to have someone like Tulsa's national debate champ chime in on one or both sides.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.aspx/Tulsa_Booker_T_Washington_debater_Arel_Rende_wins_national/20130626_11_A2_CUTLIN58102?subj=1

[RecycleMichael]

RM, my question is: When will people who were not victims of the race riot quit demanding additional reparations from people who did not perpetrate the race riot?

Who is demanding reparations?