Efforts to Rename Brady Arts District

[Hoss]

(the Joe Public speakers were a big circus...)

I thought Bynum and Blake gave very good speeches.
I'm going to agree with Henderson on something..   3 of the 4 unofficial nays were of the "my constituents are against it. sorry, I'm going to vote no"  I'll let the first guy slide since he was the first councilman to speak.   Other two:  pretty weak.

I was a "this is a waste of time", "don't whitewash the past", "it's now just a name"  guy
I certainly don't think changing the name is going to unite anyone.

That said,
Bynum & Blake have swayed my vote.

I think my biggest concern was for the shop owners and businesses down there and whether or not they'd feel the pressure to rename the district.  After listening, especially to what Blake had to say, while I'm not really for the change, I can say that I won't be upset if they choose to rename it.

The street name doesn't define the district.

[davideinstein]

Completely against this. While people were debating this last night I was at Guthrie Green watching a movie with people of all colors. That's how far we've come. No need for white guilt. It doesn't end racism and neither does naming a street after MLK only on the north side of Archer. Politics are lame, revitalization and an organic community is awesome.

[BKDotCom]

Completely against this. While people were debating this last night I was at Guthrie Green watching a movie with people of all colors. That's how far we've come. No need for white guilt. It doesn't end racism and neither does naming a street after MLK only on the north side of Archer. Politics are lame, revitalization and an organic community is awesome.

I agree with the above.
Bynum and Blake made much better arguments for renaming the street than race-baiting Henderson has.
Bynum and Blank made effective arguments without playing the race and/or reparation cards  (which is probably why they were so effective).

Anyone have any transcripts of what they said?

[DolfanBob]

Under council rules, a tie vote would have been counted as a "no" vote.

What part of this do they not understand?

[AquaMan]

Lakin must feel he's on the hotseat. If I were him I would use your post as guidance.

[RecycleMichael]

Anyone have any transcripts of what they said?

You can watch the whole 4 and a half hours on your computer...

http://tgovonline.org/

Click on demand, then go to the meeting. The councilors made comments at the beginning and at the very end.

[AngieB]

Under council rules, a tie vote would have been counted as a "no" vote.

What part of this do they not understand?

I think the point is that they fully understand that rule.

[patric]

I think the point is that they fully understand that rule.

They took a vote and it failed.
What more is there to do?

[Downtowner]

I wonder if anyone has investigated the past of T.J. Archer?  Was he in the Klan? 

And what about Greenwood avenue being named for Greenwood Leflore?  I think we should change the Greenwood name back to Garrison - which it is named in the rest of the city.  We don't want anyone being offended by it. 

Of course then we can't have the Greenwood district, but hey, what's in a name.  Maybe they could put a plaque up on the new "Garrison" avenue pointing out it used to be Black Wall Street when it had another name.

This whole mess offends me, and I won't vote for my councilor again.

[davideinstein]

They took a vote and it failed.
What more is there to do?

Exactly.

[BKDotCom]

They took a vote and it failed.
What more is there to do?

They went around the room and took closing remarks / informal vote.
There was no official vote.
Knowing that they didn't have the vote, they postponed the vote until next week.
Next week there will still only be 8 council-people in attendance.   not sure who will be missing next week (a was gonna vote yay, or a gonna vote ney).

[Hoss]

They went around the room and took closing remarks / informal vote.
There was no official vote.
Knowing that they didn't have the vote, they postponed the vote until next week.
Next week there will still only be 8 council-people in attendance.   not sure who will be missing next week (a was gonna vote yay, or a gonna vote ney).

That's not what I gathered from the meeting last night.  At first Henderson and Patrick thought there would be one absent; then they realized there wouldn't be after polling the remaining councilors.

[Breadburner]

Henderson makes walking on 1 crutch look easy....!!

[Markk]

If it gets renamed, I suggest Burns Ave., after perennial candidate Accountability Burns, a/k/a E5, leader of the MARS EARS project, and whose skill at phonetic spelling is unmatched in this world or any other.

[Hoss]

The renaming has already been chosen to Burlington as per the proposal.