Efforts to Rename Brady Arts District

[MyDogHunts]

I'm new to Tulsa and having learned about what happened in 1921, as well as Tate Brady's tarring the Union Workers, I think the lone issue of changing a street name to something other than "Brady" is worthy.

If you don't have a card to play in this game, get out; to the people that it matters to, it matters.  I saw where there are 31 street signs along Brady Street.  That's not many.  It's just the Art District.  Brady Heights will always be Brady Heights.

Keeping it Brady:  "Tulsa, keeping up with yesterday."

[heironymouspasparagus]

I'm new to Tulsa and having learned about what happened in 1921, as well as Tate Brady's tarring the Union Workers, I think the lone issue of changing a street name to something other than "Brady" is worthy.

If you don't have a card to play in this game, get out; to the people that it matters to, it matters.  I saw where there are 31 street signs along Brady Street.  That's not many.  It's just the Art District.  Brady Heights will always be Brady Heights.

Keeping it Brady:  "Tulsa, keeping up with yesterday."

Welcome to Tulsa!!  How you liking it so far?  The last couple weeks have been the absolute perfection of weather that makes putting up with the rest of the year worth it!   Almost....

I see you only have two posts so far....don't be a slacker...jump right in - the water's fine.  Well, except for the chlorine and the fluoridation....

[sgrizzle]

I'm new to Tulsa and having learned about what happened in 1921, as well as Tate Brady's tarring the Union Workers, I think the lone issue of changing a street name to something other than "Brady" is worthy.

If you don't have a card to play in this game, get out; to the people that it matters to, it matters.  I saw where there are 31 street signs along Brady Street.  That's not many.  It's just the Art District.  Brady Heights will always be Brady Heights.

Keeping it Brady:  "Tulsa, keeping up with yesterday."

The decision was made to rename the street after someone else named Brady, so the street name is virtually the same.

While it might be "just a street name," changing the street name would eventually involve renaming the district, the theater, brady heights, etc.

[Hoss]

The decision was made to rename the street after someone else named Brady, so the street name is virtually the same.

While it might be "just a street name," changing the street name would eventually involve renaming the district, the theater, brady heights, etc.

I totally disagree that it would have 'required' renaming the district or the theater.  Leave that up to the business people in the district.  The city can change the street name, but Brady District is too ingrained into native Tulsans to change that.  Plus it would make for a good story for visiting friends/relatives.  To at least watch their reaction anyway.

[BKDotCom]

As of yesterday Google maps now labels Brady as
"W MB Brady St" and "E M.B. Brady St"

I dunno what's up with the MB M.B. discrepancy
http://goo.gl/maps/IGqeR

[sgrizzle]

I totally disagree that it would have 'required' renaming the district or the theater.  Leave that up to the business people in the district.  The city can change the street name, but Brady District is too ingrained into native Tulsans to change that.  Plus it would make for a good story for visiting friends/relatives.  To at least watch their reaction anyway.

It is easier to force private entities to change than government. Brady Park become Guthrie Green and Brady Tavern became The Tavern, that is without a street name change.

[Breadburner]

FYI...."The Brady Bunch" is now just referred to as "The Bunch".....

[Townsend]

It is easier to force private entities to change than government. Brady Park become Guthrie Green and Brady Tavern became The Tavern, that is without a street name change.

Those changes weren't voluntary?

[sgrizzle]

Those changes weren't voluntary?

Just as voluntary as McDonalds dropping "super sizing"

[MyDogHunts]

The decision was made to rename the street after someone else named Brady, so the street name is virtually the same.

While it might be "just a street name," changing the street name would eventually involve renaming the district, the theater, brady heights, etc.

I don not agree.  The district name is a Federal issue, no?  The Brady Heights division is not something you can change no more than you can move a survey monument.  Brady Theater, so what... privately held.

Brady Street... a different animal.  They're changing it anyway.  Like I said... to some it would matter.  I understand that there is a brand issue, lots of money by a few people who hold sway with city hall, people who feel any loss of the "Brady" established name is potentially a $$ loss.  I doubt it.

Change the name to something else more meaningful and hold a parade.  Who wants to celebrate a civil war photographer?  That is a wasted effort I think we can agree.

As for other's who may have been somewhat involved in the 1921 and earlier events, it isn't like a major commerce street is named after them, is it?

Too much black or white; not "and".

[MyDogHunts]

FYI...."The Brady Bunch" is now just referred to as "The Bunch".....

If the Brady Bunch was a SS unit that ushered the gates where railroad tracks ended, I am sure the name of the TV show would have been something else.

[MyDogHunts]

Welcome to Tulsa!!  How you liking it so far?  The last couple weeks have been the absolute perfection of weather that makes putting up with the rest of the year worth it!   Almost....

I see you only have two posts so far....don't be a slacker...jump right in - the water's fine.  Well, except for the chlorine and the fluoridation....

The weather has been fine.  I have been away from Oklahoma for 35-years.  I came from the flatlands and saw how downtown Tulsa was developing.  I look forward to getting older (older) and seeing it grow.  It's like I showed up just as the steam was building.  It's a lovely town.

[Conan71]

I don not agree.  The district name is a Federal issue, no?  The Brady Heights division is not something you can change no more than you can move a survey monument.  Brady Theater, so what... privately held.

Brady Street... a different animal.  They're changing it anyway.  Like I said... to some it would matter.  I understand that there is a brand issue, lots of money by a few people who hold sway with city hall, people who feel any loss of the "Brady" established name is potentially a $$ loss.  I doubt it.

Change the name to something else more meaningful and hold a parade.  Who wants to celebrate a civil war photographer?  That is a wasted effort I think we can agree.

As for other's who may have been somewhat involved in the 1921 and earlier events, it isn't like a major commerce street is named after them, is it?

Too much black or white; not "and".

How about just letting the issue drop?

It's been handled as much as the city cares to handle it.  They have ultimate jurisdiction over the name.  Honestly, most Tulsans would rather move on.  The race riot has been properly recognized and memorialized.  Why inconvenience and penalize those who have invested in the area just because some history reconstructionist wrote a poorly documented essay on Tate Brady's alleged associations almost 100 years ago?

[sgrizzle]

I don not agree.  The district name is a Federal issue, no?  

No

The Brady Heights division is not something you can change no more than you can move a survey monument.  

It can be changed easier than a street name

[MyDogHunts]

I don not agree.  The district name is a Federal issue, no?  
No


The Brady Heights division is not something you can change no more than you can move a survey monument.
It can be changed easier than a street name


Historic Districts are Federal designations.  To change the District to something else would take an act of Congress, like that would happen...

Brady Heights is part of documentation that exists in legal documents since 1918 or so.  To change that would be like changing the section number, I believe.  It is legal beyond.

Changing the name of a street is a simple affair.

Moving on would be easy.