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Mayor 2013: Negative ad campaigns

Started by sgrizzle, June 03, 2013, 10:17:04 PM

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Townsend

Quote from: carltonplace on October 16, 2013, 09:59:27 AM
Kathy is really ramping up the negative adds lately. Doesn't she realize that she just needs to let Dewey do-ey his own speaking and defeat himself?

She is coming off as mean; it's like watching someone rub a dog's nose in their own mess.

I was a little surprised the campaign went that way.  I didn't think it was necessary.

DolfanBob

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I agree with both of you. I saw the first one last night. He's done. She just needs to sit back and watch the polls. At this point she is just wasting money on the ads.
Changing opinions one mistake at a time.

swake

Quote from: DolfanBob on October 16, 2013, 03:45:44 PM
I agree with both of you. I saw the first one last night. He's done. She just needs to sit back and watch the polls. At this point she is just wasting money on the ads.

Is he even running a campaign? I see almost nothing from him.

Conan71

Quote from: swake on October 16, 2013, 03:49:58 PM
Is he even running a campaign? I see almost nothing from him.

I heard some sort of attack ad from his camp in the last couple of days talking about her having the largest house in Broward County, Florida...blah blah blah.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

RecycleMichael

I heard a very negative radio ad against Taylor on KRMG. Dewey seems to be running against Obama.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Conan71

Quote from: RecycleMichael on October 16, 2013, 04:05:52 PM
I heard a very negative radio ad against Taylor on KRMG. Dewey seems to be running against Obama.

I was starting to wonder if Obama was running for mayor...
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Gaspar

Quote from: carltonplace on October 16, 2013, 09:59:27 AM
Kathy is really ramping up the negative adds lately. Doesn't she realize that she just needs to let Dewey do-ey his own speaking and defeat himself?

She is coming off as mean; it's like watching someone rub a dog's nose in their own mess.

All anyone needs to do in this state to defeat Kathy is bring up her fiscal history, or her devotion to Obama. It seems however that Dewey has no interest in doing that. His campaign is positive to a fault.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

AquaMan

Quote from: Gaspar on October 16, 2013, 05:06:18 PM
All anyone needs to do in this state to defeat Kathy is bring up her fiscal history, or her devotion to Obama. It seems however that Dewey has no interest in doing that. His campaign is positive to a fault.


I suspect you've never even met Taylor. She never talked to me about Obama and I made clear I was a supporter.
onward...through the fog

RecycleMichael

Quote from: Gaspar on October 16, 2013, 05:06:18 PM
All anyone needs to do in this state to defeat Kathy is bring up her fiscal history, or her devotion to Obama. It seems however that Dewey has no interest in doing that. His campaign is positive to a fault.

You have no idea what you are talking about.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Gaspar

Quote from: RecycleMichael on October 16, 2013, 07:42:53 PM
You have no idea what you are talking about.

So she's not an Obama fan, and managed the city budget extremely well during her term?

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

AquaMan

Its a black/white, either/or world for you.

onward...through the fog

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Gaspar

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Gaspar on October 16, 2013, 07:57:42 PM
So she's not an Obama fan, and managed the city budget extremely well during her term?




As compared to the alternatives, well, yeah to the city management part of that.  Being an Obama fan really doesn't mean anything in this context.  Goes to that "perspective" thing again.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

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Gaspar

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on October 17, 2013, 07:18:24 AM

As compared to the alternatives, well, yeah to the city management part of that.  Being an Obama fan really doesn't mean anything in this context.  Goes to that "perspective" thing again.



You are probably right.  It's more of an underlying philosophy thing for me. Always has been.  I have had the opportunity to meet here on several occasions and she is a very nice person.  Unfortunately, it's not as easy as just electing people.  You have to support the philosophy that person represents.  I was actually leaning towards voting for her until she started her campaign advertising and I had an opportunity to read her list of issues.  She would have waltzed back to Tulsa and stepped right into the mayor's seat if she had just presented a dignified campaign and treated her opponent as a nice man, but simply a lesser choice. 

Her attempts to take rather silly things and promote them as horrible travesties against the public is juvenile and plays to only the lest of us.  Fortunately she doesn't' do it very well.  Her ads come off as more alarmist than realistic, which is typical of the politicians playbook, and makes her look more like the "politician" in the race.

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed – and hence clamorous to be led to safety – by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. – H.L. Mencken

She looked awkward attempting to tell a content public that they should be outraged. In the midst of a slow economy with high national unemployment, Tulsa has faired far better than most, and cleaned up a legacy of bad bookkeeping bookmaking.  Now she wants to run on the concept that the people should be outraged because a machine that was supposed to tear apart garbage bags required adjustment and the Mayor was not notified immediately?

Dewey is no rocket scientist, but he does employ a very common sense approach to things and understands that programs & promises cary prices, and that's what put us in debt when Kathy was in office.  We can't afford to throw money at every problem and/or each nut-job business man that wants to build a spaceship or airplane, just to get our name on it.

Reading through the "issues" on her current website, "Transparency" tops the pile, but that's not the most important issue to the typical Tulsa voter, economic development and jobs is, and that's third. The rest is mostly the same political gibberish.  I wish there was a third candidate but there is not. 

Sometimes telling people how bad things are, just makes them reflect on how good things are.

I think Tulsa just does better with an ego-less mayor, even if he is boring and lacks fashion.

We'll see.  She may still have an opportunity to win me over.  I'm undecided at the moment, but if she just wants to spend money, make promises and tell me how bad my life will be without her, she'll be playing the wrong tune.  The city seems to be on the right path, and headed in a direction of growth.  Whoever is elected needs not to mess that up!
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.