Hill Across from OSU Tulsa

[TurismoDreamin]

Turismo, do you have that master plan in jpg or pdf form?  That must have been when OSU proposed the Vision 20/20 plan: 20,000 students in Tulsa by 2020.  I would be interested in knowing if this plan is still valid or has been updated.

Anyone familiar with OSU know why they they didn't follow through with this plan?  Was it purely lack of funding? 

I don't have this in a better format. I just so happen to be at OSU-Tulsa the other day and came across this while I was there. It's surrounded by windows and no matter what angle I took that picture, I couldn't get rid of the glare. If you're interested, this picture is on the second floor of the Main Hall next to some sofas, tables, and chairs as well as a stairwell near a computer lab.

[AquaMan]

"OSU-Tulsa plans to level the top of (Standpipe) hill and create terraces down the side to control erosion.
They've cut down trees, but will plant more, and at the top they'll place a large, lighted "O," easily visible from the highway and the Brady District."


So is the "O" for "Obscene" ?

They may regret that. The big "O" in Tulsa. Right.

Anyone know about the physical gesture students make with their hands at Oregon University that represents the "O"? Unfortunately it also is sign language for female genitalia.

[custosnox]

Anyone know about the physical gesture students make with their hands at Oregon University that represents the "O"? Unfortunately it also is sign language for female genitalia.

Not quiet. Close, but not exactly.

[AquaMan]

Not quiet. Close, but not exactly.

I saw a pic on Yahoo, youtube or somewhere showing the odd looks on some ASL students' faces when watching fans flashing the sign. The text was my source.  Index finger tips together and thumbs together with a resulting ace of spades appearance. How close is it?

[sgrizzle]

The laws prohibiting them from competing with TCC are a big hinderance for OSU expansion. That and founding issues. Tulsa is the red headed stepchild of Stillwater.

[Conan71]

The laws prohibiting them from competing with TCC are a big hinderance for OSU expansion. That and founding issues. Tulsa is the red headed stepchild of Stillwater.

I wasn't aware of specific laws which prohibit them from competing with TCC other than the self-serving rules of the board of regents which tend to protect the mother ships in Stillwater and Norman.  If I'm wrong on the notion there aren't other laws, that simply adds heaps ludicrous to piles of ridiculous.

Tulsa got hosed on a great opportunity back in the mid '80's with UCAT.  Considering Tulsa is probably the largest metro in the United States without a true four year public university, we could have easily merged the upper class mission of UCAT with the associate's nature of TJC and better met the needs of our community in one convenient place rather than the sprawl we have now.  What we've ended up with has managed to serve construction contractors and provide more job opportunities for higher ed administrators and instructors quite well while providing a convoluted trail to a degree for students.

[dbacksfan 2.0]

They may regret that. The big "O" in Tulsa. Right.

Anyone know about the physical gesture students make with their hands at Oregon University that represents the "O"? Unfortunately it also is sign language for female genitalia.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/18/sports/ncaafootball/american-sign-language-program-attracts-oregon-football-players.html?_r=0

[AquaMan]

I wasn't aware of specific laws which prohibit them from competing with TCC other than the self-serving rules of the board of regents which tend to protect the mother ships in Stillwater and Norman.  If I'm wrong on the notion there aren't other laws, that simply adds heaps ludicrous to piles of ridiculous.

Tulsa got hosed on a great opportunity back in the mid '80's with UCAT.  Considering Tulsa is probably the largest metro in the United States without a true four year public university, we could have easily merged the upper class mission of UCAT with the associate's nature of TJC and better met the needs of our community in one convenient place rather than the sprawl we have now.  What we've ended up with has managed to serve construction contractors and provide more job opportunities for higher ed administrators and instructors quite well while providing a convoluted trail to a degree for students.

Well described. Its lunacy but profitable lunacy.

[AquaMan]

I see what you mean Custo. The form of a spade is more the sign than an O. Still, I am angry at OSU for defiling that area and will find any reason to needle them (has nothing to do with my being an OU alum, nothing..really). Its not like we needed another huge lighted sign in the area. A large OSU sign is just east of it anyway and the channel 6 sign is visible miles away from 75.

[sgrizzle]

I wasn't aware of specific laws which prohibit them from competing with TCC other than the self-serving rules of the board of regents which tend to protect the mother ships in Stillwater and Norman.  If I'm wrong on the notion there aren't other laws, that simply adds heaps ludicrous to piles of ridiculous.

Can't find the reference but state universities are not allowed to offer freshman/sophomore courses in areas serviced by a public community college.

[carltonplace]

Can't find the reference but state universities are not allowed to offer freshman/sophomore courses in areas serviced by a public community college.

seems silly

[Oil Capital]

Can't find the reference but state universities are not allowed to offer freshman/sophomore courses in areas serviced by a public community college.

I think you are overstating it.  I presume this is the law to which you are referring:

§70-4665.  Nonduplication of courses.
Courses offered at the undergraduate level through Oklahoma State University/Tulsa shall not duplicate those offered by Tulsa Community College.

[Ibanez]

Hopefully this doesn't cause OU Tulsa to respond in kind with a big lighted logo at 41st & Yale

[sgrizzle]

Hopefully this doesn't cause OU Tulsa to respond in kind with a big lighted logo at 41st & Yale

They don't have to put up a better sign. Their fans will claim their sign is better, larger and more successful regardless of fact.

[sgrizzle]

I think you are overstating it.  I presume this is the law to which you are referring:

§70-4665.  Nonduplication of courses.
Courses offered at the undergraduate level through Oklahoma State University/Tulsa shall not duplicate those offered by Tulsa Community College.

Since TCC offers virtually every freshman/sophomore course OSU does, it seems to be accurate to what I said.

People won't enroll at OSU and live on campus if half their classes have to be taken elsewhere.