Margaritaville

[Conan71]

For those who like to speculate a little real information never hurts.

The Creek Nation has been and continues to be committed to the trail relocation and improvement (so much so, that the lights which match the new River Parks 'standard' were purchased some time ago and have been in storage for a couple of years) that it was one of the significant points Chief Tiger made to the 600+ at the Ground Breaking ceremony a couple of weeks ago.

From the trail plan previously approved by the Creek Nation (now a bit superseded in detail, but the intent remains) by Land Plan; the trail improvements include a single 20' trail behind the Hotel, Margaritaville, Pool area, Land Shark Landing, and Show Room Theater (but if there is room we may be able to squeeze in dual 10's for a portion as the design finalizes in the very near future).  Overall the trail is planned to essentially match the River Parks standard with dual trails where possible.  

Be patient it will happen and I predict well received (ok by most around here anyway).

Kirby

Ps.  Also thhought about recomending thermal striping on the dual trail vs paint, as it is raised a bit which might be more of a lane wonder deterrent than paint, any thoughts from you trail users?

I'd rather not have thermal striping as I'm prone to ride the trails when it's wet out and it can pose a hazard to cyclists when it's wet.  I don't believe it improves the situation of lane wandering.  Divided trails would be nice but 20' even if it's not divided is even better than what is currently between 71st & the creek to the north of 81st. 

Thanks for the update.

[BuiltRight]

Below is a link to the live camera feed from the casino construction.

http://www.riverspirittulsa.com/new-casino-construction/

[TheArtist]

Below is a link to the live camera feed from the casino construction.

http://www.riverspirittulsa.com/new-casino-construction/

Kewl, thanks.

[Townsend]

Still has a way to go:

[patric]

Just tread carefully:

http://www.newson6.com/story/28719541/construction-in-tulsa-puts-americas-bird-in-danger

[Vision 2025]

Actually unlike what some media and ODWC (who didn't actually have jurisdiction but loves headlines) said, this was not a specific part of the project (and work on the project was never stopped) but the location was part of a route utilized by a sub-contractor to a private disposal site for rock and unsuitable soils.  

Overall, this was akin to it being the Casino's fault should a concrete truck run a red light on the way back to the batch plant after making a delivery.  

Specifically the location was across the river and to the North of the project on lands owned by the Nation, those eagles were origionally nesting further North but moved late or maybe relocated to the old nest (next to the sand plant) for those familiar with the area.  

Lastly, I've known about eagle nest protection zones for some time and am working on multiple sites with active nests but with this event I researched the Bald Eagle protection and found a well written document from USF&W but was surprised read that unless you specifically disturb (read, run-off or destroy a nest) there are only recommended seperation criteria but had we know this sub was going to resume hauling and that those eagles had choosen that onest we would have prevented the situation.  Oh and the eagles, are still there just like the pair nesting adjacent to Highway 75 at the Creek Turnpike.     Posted for PMg

[rdj]

Are you posting on behalf of Vision 2025, PMG or personally?

[Vision 2025]

Are you posting on behalf of Vision 2025, PMG or personally?

PMg in this instance, I only have one log in.

[rdj]

Cool.  I wasn't trying to be rude, was just curious as I thought I saw a PMG trailer at the casino site the other day.

[Vision 2025]

Cool.  I wasn't trying to be rude, was just curious as I thought I saw a PMG trailer at the casino site the other day.

You are correct. PMg Native is the Owner's Rep/PM on the project.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Lastly, I've known about eagle nest protection zones for some time and am working on multiple sites with active nests but with this event I researched the Bald Eagle protection and found a well written document from USF&W but was surprised read that unless you specifically disturb (read, run-off or destroy a nest) there are only recommended seperation criteria but had we know this sub was going to resume hauling and that those eagles had choosen that onest we would have prevented the situation.  Oh and the eagles, are still there just like the pair nesting adjacent to Highway 75 at the Creek Turnpike.    

There is a pair of eagles at least trying to nest in Broken Arrow in the 91st and 145th E Ave area.

[Vision 2025]

Cool.  I wasn't trying to be rude, was just curious as I thought I saw a PMG trailer at the casino site the other day.

You were'nt, no worries.

[SXSW]

Saw this posted on another forum.  Is that road along the banks where the new river trail will be located?  Should look pretty good once they install trees/landscaping.


Anyone know how much higher the water level is supposed to be here once they build the Jenks dam?  Just curious if it will be much higher than the current level along the rip rap when this was taken or higher up, and if it will back up into Fred Creek which has been incased in concrete..  Right there next to Margaritaville makes the most sense for a future river shuttle dock.

[cannon_fodder]

The vision website says it is 7 feet at the dam. It peters out by 71st St.  So my guess is 2-3' of rise at 85th St.

Also... in the long tradition of thread drift, I saw this on the vision website:

The river development is not for strip malls, big box retail, or other unsightly projects. It will preserve areas for parkland, trails and recreational areas like Turkey Mountain.

http://www.visiontulsa.com/economic-development/arkansas-river-development/

Currently announced river projects include eliminating parkland, adding a strip mall and a big box project (in addition to the casino).   

[Vision 2025]

The vision website says it is 7 feet at the dam. It peters out by 71st St.  So my guess is 2-3' of rise at 85th St.

Also... in the long tradition of thread drift, I saw this on the vision website:
http://www.visiontulsa.com/economic-development/arkansas-river-development/

Currently announced river projects include eliminating parkland, adding a strip mall and a big box project (in addition to the casino).   

Personally, I don't consider the proposed 71st St. project to be river-centric nor in conformance with the intent of the Corridor Master Plan.