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At what point does this city start taking cyclist safety seriously?

Started by davideinstein, October 27, 2013, 08:26:47 AM

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AquaMan

honestly. I saw one of those motorized bicycles cruising up Admiral at Yale while getting my muffler fixed. HE RAN THE RED! Must have doing about 7mph which made it look like slow motion. I was so surprised that the drivers on Yale didn't flatten him. They were probably as astounded as I was.
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sauerkraut

Cyclists need to realize how hard they are for drivers to see at night, heck, a few days ago I saw a cyclist dressed in all black riding at night on N. 73rd ave. the only thing that gave him away was the reflective bike pedals, (no light or anything). Riding any bike at night is risky no matter what. The best place to ride a bike is on the jogging trails.  I am not a cyclist and I have not rode a bike in decades, but I am a hard core runner and the only place I ever run is on the jogging trails, you'll never catch me jogging in the streets, not even side streets, I stick to the trails only when I go running.
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sauerkraut

Many posts talk about drunk drivers, but a even worse threat  is cell phone and texting drivers- for some reason talking on a cell phone  while driving zones out the brain, texting is worse, they say texting is more dangerous than a drunk 90 year old driver and ya can't get any more dangerous that that. I seen cars drive normally on I-244, then suddenly the car slows down and weaves I drive around and see the driver on the cell phone.
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sauerkraut

The driver problem of  texting/cell phone use  can be solved by a couple of ways: One, design cars to block cell phone signals (shield) when the engine is on, and Two,  Design cell phones so that they don't work when they are moving faster than 5mph (a walking pace). I guess some laws will need to be changed. That will instantly stop many crashes. No cell phone talking/texting ban laws needed. :-\
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Red Arrow

Quote from: sauerkraut on November 02, 2013, 02:21:08 PM
The driver problem of  texting/cell phone use  can be solved by a couple of ways: One, design cars to block cell phone signals (shield) when the engine is on, and Two,  Design cell phones so that they don't work when they are moving faster than 5mph (a walking pace). I guess some laws will need to be changed. That will instantly stop many crashes. No cell phone talking/texting ban laws needed. :-\

I have no problem with a passenger in a car (not the driver) using a cell phone or texting.
 

sauerkraut

Quote from: Red Arrow on November 02, 2013, 04:20:54 PM
I have no problem with a passenger in a car (not the driver) using a cell phone or texting.
What is so urgent that that it can't wait? Besides  a cell/texting passenger can involve the driver and take his mind off the road. We can't have it all. Ban 'em totally from cars IMO-  A passenger cannot drink in car even if the driver is not drinking- why is that?  The same can apply to cell phones. "Hang Up -N- Drive"
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swake

I have hands free Bluetooth in my car and it's no different than talking to the person next to you. Should we also ban talking?

Hoss

Quote from: swake on November 10, 2013, 07:35:24 PM
I have hands free Bluetooth in my car and it's no different than talking to the person next to you. Should we also ban talking?

My latest car has that (BT hands free) and it's excellent.

Sauer is living in the 70s still.  Explains his ideology.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: swake on November 10, 2013, 07:35:24 PM
I have hands free Bluetooth in my car and it's no different than talking to the person next to you. Should we also ban talking?

Probably.  I have seen a lot of very distracted drivers who got that way just by talking to the person next to them....

Mostly the hands free isn't the big problem - it's the hands ON, either dialing or texting - both are the same, dialing is just fewer digits most of the time.
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swake

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on November 11, 2013, 12:04:24 PM
Probably.  I have seen a lot of very distracted drivers who got that way just by talking to the person next to them....

Mostly the hands free isn't the big problem - it's the hands ON, either dialing or texting - both are the same, dialing is just fewer digits most of the time.


God forbid parents talk to the kids in the back seat. I'd like to see a study on that.

Conan71

Quote from: swake on November 10, 2013, 07:35:24 PM
I have hands free Bluetooth in my car and it's no different than talking to the person next to you. Should we also ban talking?

Even hands-free some people are miserable multi-taskers and forget they are driving. 
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ZYX

Friday morning I was directly behind a lady who apparently did not see that everyone in front of her was stopped at a red light. She plowed her Expedition into the car in front of her which then pushed four more cars together. I have no idea whether she was on the phone, daydreaming, turned around talking to her kid, or whatever other scenario, but she was distracted enough to not even hit her brakes more than half a second before she hit the car in front of her. Thankfully, no one was injured too badly, but we have all got to pay attention while driving. Especially with the size of many people's vehicles - several tons of metal can quickly turn deadly.

Conan71

Quote from: ZYX on November 11, 2013, 10:44:45 PM
Friday morning I was directly behind a lady who apparently did not see that everyone in front of her was stopped at a red light. She plowed her Expedition into the car in front of her which then pushed four more cars together. I have no idea whether she was on the phone, daydreaming, turned around talking to her kid, or whatever other scenario, but she was distracted enough to not even hit her brakes more than half a second before she hit the car in front of her. Thankfully, no one was injured too badly, but we have all got to pay attention while driving. Especially with the size of many people's vehicles - several tons of metal can quickly turn deadly.

What do you tell the cops on the scene when that happens?  "I'm sorry officer, I had my head so far up my donkey I didn't see the brake lights and red traffic signal."

I'm convinced people simply have no respect for other motorists, are entirely pre-occupied with other things than driving, and are in too big a hurry to get where they are going they take really stupid risks without considering the consequences to themselves and those around them.

It's really gotten worse the last 10 years or so, IMO.
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guido911

Three psyoclists riding east on 111th towards Memorial in the mid afternoon on Sunday It's a forty-plus mph zone for a reason, and those selfish clowns had traffic backed up. Thankfully, the leader of the three was directing traffic behind him, I'm sure they appreciated that.
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Conan71

Quote from: guido911 on November 12, 2013, 04:11:09 PM
Three psyoclists riding east on 111th towards Memorial in the mid afternoon on Sunday It's a forty-plus mph zone for a reason, and those selfish clowns had traffic backed up. Thankfully, the leader of the three was directing traffic behind him, I'm sure they appreciated that.

Are they worse than the selfish clowns who feel the need to run red lights in a two ton vehicle?  MC and I drove a mile to Walgreens tonight and I saw three red lights blatantly blown. 

Next time, I'll make sure I'm driving when she's under the influence of pain meds.  Damn it!

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