Obama is Still Killin Folks

[Gaspar]

Given the ever expanding and already vast divide in America, it is difficult to fathom the U.S. as capable of having a popular leader in the foreseeable future.  Whomever is at the helm will be sugar to one half, and $hit to the other unlike Nazi Germany.  Like them or not, no U.S. leader past or present should ever be compared to or referenced in the context of Hitler. 

More importantly, Tulsa is not gaining anything from the drain of energy and brainpower of some good minds being focused against each other.  What can be solved or made better through this?   Can everyone just agree to disagree and continue to uplift Tulsa?

I was aware that my comment would qualify for Godwin status, but I wasn't making a comparison on policy, only on similarly in support. 

President Obama has relied on rhetoric alone to gather his masses. He brought nothing to the table except words. Now that that his popularity has begun to dwindle with the thinking, those that remain represent the cult of Obama.  With little or no resulting achievements and in many cases unforeseen or opposite results as those presented and hammered through never a never ending campaign of rhetoric, the loyalists still exist, willing to blame anyone and everyone but their deity.

President Obama's approval ratings are now lower than Bush's, and of course that too is Bush's fault.
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-approval-rating-polls-nixon-2013-12

[AquaMan]

Blah, blah, blah.....Not a leader...blah, blah, blah,....rhetoric...nothing but words...blah, blah....unpopular...cultish followers...blah, blah....

Do you know how crazy you're starting to sound? Like you are the ultimate decisionmaker on these characteristics?

We've been Godwinned. You said what you said and if you didn't mean for it to sound like what it did, then don't say it.

[AquaMan]

Given the ever expanding and already vast divide in America, it is difficult to fathom the U.S. as capable of having a popular leader in the foreseeable future.  Whomever is at the helm will be sugar to one half, and $hit to the other unlike Nazi Germany.  Like them or not, no U.S. leader past or present should ever be compared to or referenced in the context of Hitler. 

More importantly, Tulsa is not gaining anything from the drain of energy and brainpower of some good minds being focused against each other.  What can be solved or made better through this?   Can everyone just agree to disagree and continue to uplift Tulsa?

I agree. I bow out from this slug fest of useless ranting.

[Gaspar]

Bye

[Breadburner]

By the stats on the first page....It looks like Obama is trying to "Nip it in the bud" for lack of a better term....For that I say, good work....!!!!!

[guido911]

You didn't vote for change. Hardly anyone in Oklahoma did. Every effort at change has been opposed so vociferously that family and friends are torn apart across the country.

Translation: Shut up Gaspar about Obama killing kids. You didn't vote for him.

[guido911]

Blah, blah, blah.....Not a leader...blah, blah, blah,....rhetoric...nothing but words...blah, blah....unpopular...cultish followers...blah, blah....

Do you know how crazy you're starting to sound? Like you are the ultimate decisionmaker on these characteristics?

We've been Godwinned. You said what you said and if you didn't mean for it to sound like what it did, then don't say it.

You cannot escape the fact that during the Bush administration, every damned bit of negative news about the war efforts were turned into an attack. Abu Ghraib, rendition, Gitmo, military tribunals, and so on. Obama has co-opted many of these "horrible" practices which he campaigned against, and some of the deaths in the fog of war John Kerry once characterized as our soldiers terrorizing women and children are now occurring on Obama's watch. Where are the loudmouth lefties in this forum now? Freakin crickets.

[RecycleMichael]

...every damned bit of negative news about the war efforts were turned into an attack.

Please read what you wrote.

Negative news happens. It turns into an attack quite naturally by the other side. Always.

Thank you for sharing your grasp of the obvious. Where would we be without you?

[guido911]

Thank you for sharing your grasp of the obvious. Where would we be without you?

Working at the M.E.T. or living my life by dreaming of compost...

And thanks for agreeing with me that it is obvious that the left only cares about the negative war news when there is a republican commander-in-chief. Best if you read what I wrote.

[RecycleMichael]

You sure do make assumptions about what other people think.

You are special that way.

[Gaspar]

So now that the garden gnomes have finished their personal attacks and name-calling, I would be interested to know what the intelligent lefties like RM have to say on the subject? 

[Cats Cats Cats]

I'm pretty sure RM thinks we shouldn't blow innocent people up.

[Gaspar]

I'm pretty sure RM thinks we shouldn't blow innocent people up.

Well I would hope so, but I don't want to speak for him.  RM was never a big Obama supporter until he took the nomination from Hillary.  Had RM's candidate become president, we would likely be in another Clinton economic boom and have a very different foreign policy.  The Clintons are very hands-on (no pun) leaders.

[Cats Cats Cats]

Well I would hope so, but I don't want to speak for him.  RM was never a big Obama supporter until he took the nomination from Hillary.  Had RM's candidate become president, we would likely be in another Clinton economic boom and have a very different foreign policy.  The Clintons are very hands-on (no pun) leaders.

I don't think the military is targeting innocent people on purpose.  So they obviously can't tell the difference between innocents and hostiles enough of the time that drones should be used.  Basically a large meeting or a group of cars = terrorists from a satellite.   Just think if it wasn't for all that blind rage for Hillary from the right Hillary would have won.

[Gaspar]

I don't think the military is targeting innocent people on purpose.  So they obviously can't tell the difference between innocents and hostiles enough of the time that drones should be used.  Basically a large meeting or a group of cars = terrorists from a satellite.   Just think if it wasn't for all that blind rage for Hillary from the right Hillary would have won.

The military is not involved.  The program is executive branch and CIA.
Hillary's failure to gain the nomination had nothing to do with any other party but her own.  Big labor liked Obama, and the Clinton's previous support for the Iraq war delivered the more liberal Democrats to Obama.  Couple that with race, youth, and a silver tongue and you get what we got.

Hillary is cunning, but cunning was not enough. Unfortunately for the United States we ended up with an academic who really didn't like to touch anything himself. But oh could he sing.