Cabela's near Tulsa Hills?

[rdj]

Bad idea.

81st is too small and would require a new HW75 overpass to widen.

Union is narrower than some of the streets in my neighborhood, and was just recently redone by the city.

The residents are already freaking out at current congestion levels.

Maybe the city is agreeing to widen the road to accommodate the growth?

[sgrizzle]

Maybe the city is agreeing to widen the road to accommodate the growth?

Then we would need to ask some hard questions on wasted road funds. Dewey has been all about "we do everything at once" on road projects.

[rdj]

Then we would need to ask some hard questions on wasted road funds. Dewey has been all about "we do everything at once" on road projects.

According to the Fix Our Streets website 81st between Union & Elwood was rehabbed at the cost of $900M with a Fall 2011 completion date as part of the 2005 package.  Union was rehabbed from 71st to 81st at the same time at a cost of $850M.

Is there a project in the area that isn't listed?

81st absolutely needs to be widened from at least Union all the way to Elwood.  In my opinion this is great for the city of Tulsa.  New sales tax growth within the city limits and a corridor with great access to downtown.  I know several people that love living in the neighborhood east of Tulsa Hills.  Great local amnesties in their back yard and they all frequent downtown.

[Red Arrow]

S Memorial has more lanes than some area highways. They can hush.

Consider this an invitation to visit us in the early afternoon on a weekend or between about 4 PM and 6 PM weekdays.  I've been on vacation the last week and it pretty much stays busy all day.  3 lanes in each direction of pokie okies.

More lanes does not necessarily mean non-congestion.  Ask anyone from southern California.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Remember when there was a big moment of excitement for Dick's Sporting goods?

[Rookie Okie]

Remember when there was a big moment of excitement for Dick's Sporting goods?

I wasn't here for that moment, but if that's the case then the excitement bar here must be far lower than I expected.

[Ibanez]

Remember when there was a big moment of excitement for Dick's Sporting goods?

I may be in the minority, but I like Dick's.



*Don't tell Phil Robertson.

[Red Arrow]

I may be in the minority, but I like Dick's.

The only thing I have bought at Dick's was a pair of New Balance shoes.  They were more expensive than Academy.  Dick's price looked like list price but Academy discounts about 10% or a bit more.  Guess where I will go next time.

[Conan71]

I may be in the minority, but I like Dick's.



*Don't tell Phil Robertson.

Well played.

[heironymouspasparagus]

I wasn't here for that moment, but if that's the case then the excitement bar here must be far lower than I expected.

Goes to the frothing-at-the-mouth obsession we have with jobs, jobs, jobs just for the sake of low paying, minimum wage jobs.  They carry the same "weight" in the Oklahoma psyche as a good, high paying job would.  Regardless of the fact of it being a net loss for the economy in the area.

And we refuse to actually do what it takes to get the good, high paying jobs.  Education, roads, infrastructure, etc - all the things we go on about ad nauseum around here.

Paying any company $25 + million to bring in more minimum wage jobs is ridiculous.

[sgrizzle]

Paying any company $25 + million to bring in more minimum wage jobs is ridiculous.

Pretty sure you don't qualify for many subsidies if you pay minimum wage.

[Weatherdemon]

Pretty sure you don't qualify for many subsidies if you pay minimum wage.

It seems, and I may be wrong, that we've handed out some handsome rewards to companies bring in call centers.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Pretty sure you don't qualify for many subsidies if you pay minimum wage.

Whirlpool got a boon.  As did Kimberly Clark.

And during the Whirlpool "cattle calls", one of the first statements made to the groups of people was that they were NOT oil or airline, and there were not going to be high paying jobs.  Much closer to minimum wage than oil rig people.

A couple of friends were in those cattle calls and both had been laid off from Rockwell as they went away.  Both were offered (and took) jobs at Whirlpool going from about $14 an hour to about $6.50.  I'm betting the pay is better now, but certainly not keeping up with the rest of the economy - like the CEO pay for Whirlpool.

[sgrizzle]

Consider this an invitation to visit us in the early afternoon on a weekend or between about 4 PM and 6 PM weekdays.  I've been on vacation the last week and it pretty much stays busy all day.  3 lanes in each direction of pokie okies.

More lanes does not necessarily mean non-congestion.  Ask anyone from southern California.

Do it every week.

[Red Arrow]

Do it every week.

Only once a week?  What a slacker.