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Bishop v. United States: Oklahoma gay marriage

Started by cannon_fodder, January 15, 2014, 06:32:40 PM

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Conan71

Quote from: Rookie Okie on March 20, 2014, 03:43:03 PM
I don't know of Reverend Sharpton hurling epithet(S) towards whites and Jews.  He may pi$$ off some people because of positions that he takes that differ from his detractors, but such actions don't constitute racial name calling.  There would certainly be outrage if he did so, because there is outrage expressed towards him by his enemies over any comments he makes.  

Whites, Jews, Asians, homosexuals, even Mormons.  He's equal-opportunity.  Loves the N word too.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

guido911

Quote from: cannon_fodder on March 20, 2014, 01:45:16 PM
A 2 minute research:  it appears you can try to get a crowd to lynch people in Oklahoma unless the person against whom you are encouraging violenece is based on race, religion or ethnic origin.  Political beliefs, sexual orientation., or anything else either isn't protected under state law - PR is pigeoned toed under some other law.

Hard to believe "you should kill group X or you will go to hell" is protected speech.  It calls for violenece, not a statement of belief.

Well, there's this. Sexual orientation/gender identification as a defense to murder.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/transgender-woman-male-persona-serial-killer/story?id=22959423
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

dbacksfan 2.0

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Quote from: Rookie Okie on March 20, 2014, 03:43:03 PM
I don't know of Reverend Sharpton hurling epithet(S) towards whites and Jews.  He may pi$$ off some people because of positions that he takes that differ from his detractors, but such actions don't constitute racial name calling.  There would certainly be outrage if he did so, because there is outrage expressed towards him by his enemies over any comments he makes.  

If it goes against what al $harpton believes, it's racist, hatred, bigoted, slander, vile, vulgar, and basically against what he believes. And if you are against him in any way, you should be dealt with appropriately, and you have no right to speak.

He will tell you that everything you believe, and the way you were brought up is wrong, and his is the only path to take.

Rookie Okie

Quote from: Conan71 on March 20, 2014, 04:13:38 PM
Whites, Jews, Asians, homosexuals, even Mormons.  He's equal-opportunity.  Loves the N word too.


The first clip is mostly comedic stuff taken out of context, crudely pointing out some historic truths to empower African American audiences that he was addressing.  He and the former NYC mayor David Dinkens did not like each other to put it mildly, and the mayor also called Sharpton some stuff that is not printable.  I recall some of their battles.  These other youtube "favorites" again are showing nothing but his positions that are unpopular among his haters (the caption put on the Larry King interview clip called him a dude bag).  If this is all that his most ardent haters are compiling, it's really weak.

It's also a much too often used and old low brow tactic to make the monumental inference that attempts to ascribe all that is African-American to the Reverends Sharpton and Jackson, and then try to use it to rationalize the angst and cynicism of some whites.  Neither are as relevant and influential in African-American communities today as they once were (for whatever reasons good or bad).  Many people including their haters know this to be true, but their haters still insist on trying to use them both to their perceived advantage.  No group of people should be painted with too broad or too narrow a paint brush.   

Rookie Okie

Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on March 20, 2014, 08:54:04 PM
If it goes against what al $harpton believes, it's racist, hatred, bigoted, slander, vile, vulgar, and basically against what he believes. And if you are against him in any way, you should be dealt with appropriately, and you have no right to speak.

He will tell you that everything you believe, and the way you were brought up is wrong, and his is the only path to take.
Would not the same have to be said for $$$$$Rush, $$$$O'Reilly, $$Hannity and $others?

Red Arrow

Quote from: Rookie Okie on March 20, 2014, 10:52:47 PM
Would not the same have to be said for $$$$$Rush, $$$$O'Reilly, $$Hannity and $others?

Sharpton makes the above look like amateurs.

 


guido911

Quote from: Rookie Okie on March 21, 2014, 12:06:14 AM
Please.

Google "Tawana Brawley" and get back to us how Rush and Hannity did something like that..
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

dbacksfan 2.0

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Quote from: Rookie Okie on March 20, 2014, 10:52:47 PM
Would not the same have to be said for $$$$$Rush, $$$$O'Reilly, $$Hannity and $others?

Only if the truly promote racial divide, and spend most of their lives continuing to promote and reinforce racism, and claim that any one is a racist for disagreeing with them. Guess it's alright for Sharpton and the like to claim that they are suffering from suppression form the white man, and that's the end of the subject.

Sharpton has a goal to rip apart everything that changed over the last 50 some years.

Conan71

Quote from: Rookie Okie on March 20, 2014, 10:47:19 PM
The first clip is mostly comedic stuff taken out of context, crudely pointing out some historic truths to empower African American audiences that he was addressing.  He and the former NYC mayor David Dinkens did not like each other to put it mildly, and the mayor also called Sharpton some stuff that is not printable.  I recall some of their battles.  These other youtube "favorites" again are showing nothing but his positions that are unpopular among his haters (the caption put on the Larry King interview clip called him a dude bag).  If this is all that his most ardent haters are compiling, it's really weak.

It's also a much too often used and old low brow tactic to make the monumental inference that attempts to ascribe all that is African-American to the Reverends Sharpton and Jackson, and then try to use it to rationalize the angst and cynicism of some whites.  Neither are as relevant and influential in African-American communities today as they once were (for whatever reasons good or bad).  Many people including their haters know this to be true, but their haters still insist on trying to use them both to their perceived advantage.  No group of people should be painted with too broad or too narrow a paint brush.   

If those comments were attributed to a white speaker, it would be "Off with his head!" 

People in the black community would do well to steer clear of these two, and no one I know is ignorant enough to "ascribe all that is African-American" to these two hooligans.  They make their money by whipping up racial tension.  They are racist and look for the racist bogeyman constantly so they can stay relevant and so their coffers stay flush.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Rookie Okie

Quote from: Conan71 on March 21, 2014, 08:50:29 AM
They make their money by whipping up racial tension.  They are racist and look for the racist bogeyman constantly so they can stay relevant and so their coffers stay flush.


If you believe they make money this way, many more of their white counterparts are making a whole lot more bling (for themselves, networks, and owners) doing the same thing daily.  They desperately endeavor to stir up white rage.  Apparently, couldn't do nearly enough of it to turn the last 2 presidential elections, but oh boy didn't they try.

Rookie Okie

Quote from: guido911 on March 21, 2014, 12:37:49 AM
Google "Tawana Brawley" and get back to us how Rush and Hannity did something like that..
Don't need to google Tawana Brawley, nor any of the crap that these 2 morons spew out daily.

nathanm

How many of you Sharpton haters were livid at the idea of changing the name of the Brady District so it is not named after one of the most virulent racists in Tulsa's history? Oddly, there seems to be a strong correlation... Hmmm...  :-*
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Conan71

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan