Clear Water Carwash on Cherry Street....

[Breadburner]

Heard it sold and the property behind it....Supposedly an Abuelo's is going in there.....Makes no sense to me.....

[TheArtist]

As long as it's pedestrian friendly I don't care what goes in there.

[DowntownDan]

Makes sense that something other than a carwash go there, but Abuelos?  Come on.  I can make better Mexican food in my kitchen.

[dbacksfan 2.0]

Makes sense that something other than a carwash go there, but Abuelos?  Come on.  I can make better Mexican food in my kitchen.

"I really like the one that I ate at in Dallas. The food there was so yummy!!!" 

[sgrizzle]

Lots of people like Abuelos.

I'm not sure why, or who, but they exist.

[Conan71]

Lots of people like Abuelos.

I'm not sure why, or who, but they exist.

Probably the same people that like Ted's.

Funny, we just got back from eating at Smoke tonight and I was thinking the view of the car wash was not the best view from the front window.  Can't say Abuelo's will be an improvement.

[davideinstein]

I use the car wash more than I would use Abuelos.

[SXSW]

As long as it's pedestrian friendly I don't care what goes in there.

Does the zoning actually require it to be?  I know the newer buildings where Chipotle is located were built facing the sidewalk with all parking behind, but wasn't sure if that was mandated.  All new buildings on Cherry Street should be pedestrian friendly. 

[LeGenDz]

I'm surprised it isn't a Ted's

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[TheArtist]

Does the zoning actually require it to be?  I know the newer buildings where Chipotle is located were built facing the sidewalk with all parking behind, but wasn't sure if that was mandated.  All new buildings on Cherry Street should be pedestrian friendly. 

No, sadly enough the zoning doesn't require it to be, actually the zoning requires it be auto oriented.  The developer of that new building you mentioned actually had to go before the board and get an exception to NOT have to tear out more buildings around him to meet the minimum parking requirements for instance.

[sgrizzle]

Probably the same people that like Ted's.

Funny, we just got back from eating at Smoke tonight and I was thinking the view of the car wash was not the best view from the front window.  Can't say Abuelo's will be an improvement.

I actually like Ted's. Well, the Tulsa Hills one. But I'm not as adverse to loud as you are. With two small children, every meal is loud.

[Hoss]

I actually like Ted's. Well, the Tulsa Hills one. But I'm not as adverse to loud as you are. With two small children, every meal is loud.

Ted's is a 'last resort' Mexican food place for me.  Which means if I'm dragged along during a work lunch, I won't complain about it, but there are certain items on their menu that I will eat, and many I won't.

It sort of reminds me of a little more upscale El Chico....

[sgrizzle]

Ted's is a 'last resort' Mexican food place for me.  Which means if I'm dragged along during a work lunch, I won't complain about it, but there are certain items on their menu that I will eat, and many I won't.

It sort of reminds me of a little more upscale El Chico....

It's the only place I've had rice on Nachos.

[BKDotCom]

Seems like a good spot for an Embassy. 
Not sure about a mexican food embassy though.

[SXSW]

No, sadly enough the zoning doesn't require it to be, actually the zoning requires it be auto oriented.  The developer of that new building you mentioned actually had to go before the board and get an exception to NOT have to tear out more buildings around him to meet the minimum parking requirements for instance.

So it has to meet parking minimums for a restaurant, but the planning board still has to approve the site plan.  I would think anything not in character with the rest of the businesses on the street would get turned down, which is why we see new buildings in Cherry Street and Brookside facing the sidewalk.  Now if we can just get the code to also reduce parking requirements then we would be in better shape as these districts evolve.  I hope eventually the streetscape on 15th can be improved; the angled parking is fine but there needs to be bump-outs at the intersections and better sidewalks, with more trees.

Hoping this isn't another chain, Cherry St has plenty of those already and is already saturated with Mexican food.