Clear Water Carwash on Cherry Street....

[rdj]

Bar & Grill focused on good beer going in on this spot.  Same group involved with a couple established spots on Brookside.  Don't expect construction to start too quickly.  They're trying to get a few other projects finished first.

[dsjeffries]

Oh good God, they bought 7 parcels of land so they can plop down a 140-space surface parking lot. It's like they're out to kill Cherry Street or something. That's 42,000 square feet of surface parking lots.

Three new restaurants are coming to a new building under construction on Cherry Street near Trenton Avenue.
The new restaurants include a second Tulsa location for Taziki's Mediterranean Cafe, a third Tulsa-area location for Noodles & Company and Roosevelt, a sports bar concept from the creators of R Bar and Old School Bagel Cafe, said developer Duane Phillips.

Phillips said the $6.5 million, two-story, 22,000-square-foot building will have retail on the first floor and office space on the second.
"We're still working on the tenants on the second floor," he said. "We're looking to get support companies or offices like other buildings on Cherry Street have."
The building will be finished by mid-spring, Phillips said.

Both of the chain concepts coming to the building are relatively new to Tulsa. Taziki's Mediterranean Cafe, a relatively small chain of 30 restaurants, recently opened up a location this month at 71st Street and Yale Avenue.
Taziki's offers up a largely health-conscious mix of Mediterranean standards and twists on traditional dishes.

Noodles & Company, which features a variety of dishes inspired by world cuisine, opened its first Oklahoma restaurant near Woodland Hills Mall this year. A second location is under construction in Broken Arrow near Lynn Lane and the Broken Arrow Expressway.

As for Roosevelt — another partnership between R Bar owner Josh Royal and Old School Bagel Cafe owner Paul Sorrentino, along with Bill Grant, Kyle Johnson and Joe Trizza — Phillips said it won't be your run-of-the-mill sports bar.

"It's going to be a high-end sports bar with a heated patio and lots of TVs," he said. "It'll be one of the best ones in the city of Tulsa."
Royal and Sorrentino are also collaborating with Prairie Ales on The Tavern, a brewpub set to open in the Brady District soon.

In addition to the restaurants and office space, the new building promises to bring an unusual amenity to Cherry Street — ample parking.
Phillips said he bought seven parcels of land totaling an acre and a half for the project in order to put a 140-space parking lot behind the building.

"It was more space than we'd normally get, but we've got to figure out a way to get more parking to get more patrons to Cherry Street," he said.
Phillips, who is also spearheading the multi-building Village on Main development in Jenks, isn't a stranger to the Cherry Street area.

He also constructed Cherry Street Ridge, the building that now contains Genghis Grill, Chipotle and Pinot's Palette, and converted the former Luby's near downtown into the Tulsa Fertility Clinic.
Financing for his newest building was provided by Valley National Bank.

Tulsa World article




Don't Jenks my Cherry Street.

[Townsend]

Oh good God, they bought 7 parcels of land so they can plop down a 140-space surface parking lot. It's like they're out to kill Cherry Street or something. That's 42,000 square feet of surface parking lots.


Don't Jenks my Cherry Street.

Get a trolley going up and down Cherry street, close it to auto traffic, allow "roadies" on 15th from Utica to Peoria and we would never need parking on there again.

[Tulsasaurus Rex]

Not sure which seven parcels immediately near there they could have bought. Oh well, the parking lots are future development space to me.

Edit: Also, Cherry Street does not have parking problem.

[swake]

Not sure which seven parcels immediately near there they could have bought. Oh well, the parking lots are future development space to me.

Edit: Also, Cherry Street does not have parking problem.

It's probably the empty lots of the north and west of the car wash.

[rebound]

But if those spots are behind the building, it does actually keep Cherry walk-friendly, and adds to the number of people who could/would visit there.   I agree that for the most part there isn't a huge parking problem, but it can get tight at times.   This situation is basically the same as what already exists on Brookside, with the large lots in behind Cosmo Cafe, Cafe Ole, The Brook, and In The Raw.

[saintnicster]

Not sure which seven parcels immediately near there they could have bought. Oh well, the parking lots are future development space to me.

Edit: Also, Cherry Street does not have parking problem.

It's probably the empty lots of the north and west of the car wash.

Lots that were bought and razed, yeah.   900k spent in land and they just want to pave it.  Maybe they could have spent less on land and built vertically?  Who knows...

Oh, and the two lots still at the corner of 15th and St Louis are Full Moon's old building.

[Breadburner]

Not sure which seven parcels immediately near there they could have bought. Oh well, the parking lots are future development space to me.

Edit: Also, Cherry Street does not have parking problem.

Yes it does.....

[TheArtist]

Yes it does.....

I think the most I have ever walked is like 3 blocks. That's nothing.  Once it gets to a quarter mile or so then lets talk. 

But anywhoo, wish we could get good transit going and people park say in the vast sea of parking on the south side of downtown.  With good transit that would be more convenient than wandering around the back alleys of Cherry Street.

[cannon_fodder]

Our City is dumb.

We have few areas in the city that are drawing in quality, dense, urban development... East Village of downtown, Brady, Cherry Street and Brookside. And we are taking 65,000 square feet of one, building an 11,000 sq/ft footprint and paving the other 54,000 square feet.  God willing it goes to Condos later.

I'd rather leave them interest little bungalows.

BUT ---

The project adds vertical frontage and adds overall density to the area.

Win and lose. Probably more win than lose.

[Tulsasaurus Rex]

The project adds vertical frontage and adds overall density to the area.

Win and lose. Probably more win than lose.

I think you're probably right about this.

For what it's worth I'd rather they had taken the Cherry Street Villas than some interesting bungalows. Those things are kind of dumpy.

[PonderInc]

The problem with private parking lots is that it's not necessarily legal for people to park in them.  Is this lot being built with the understanding that it's for all Cherry Street patrons? Or just for the properties it abuts?  Parking needs to be managed at the neighborhood level, not the lot level.

[rdj]

At one point they were looking at structured parking on the two St Louis lots, but I don't think the office leases worked out to provide the cash flow to do that.  The pro on this building is it has office space.  But, the lease rates to make the project were top of the market for anywhere in the city.  Adding daytime pedestrians is a good thing for Cherry Street IMO.  Also, I believe only three of the 10-23 lots between this development and 14th St are all multi tenant "lofts" with the re-purposed fire station being on 14th St.  This would have to be one of the more dense multi-use blocks in the city.

[Stanley1]

Edit: Also, Cherry Street does not have parking problem.

Nonsense.

I pretty much avoid Cherry Street b/c I CAN'T ever find parking when I want to.  I'm a busy man, I don't have time to drive around for 25 minutes to find a parking spot so I can enjoy my lunch.

[cannon_fodder]

Nonsense.

I pretty much avoid Cherry Street b/c I CAN'T ever find parking when I want to.  I'm a busy man, I don't have time to drive around for 25 minutes to find a parking spot so I can enjoy my lunch.

Cherry Street over lunch is about 1/10th as busy as Cherry Street on Farmers Market day, and on Farmers Market day the street itself is closed (removing a bunch of parking). Yet I seldom have to park further away than 3 blocks. Whenever I have gone to Cherry Street for lunch, I don't think I've ever parked further away than 2 blocks.  Instead of driving around for 25 minutes looking for a closer parking spot - just park 2 blocks away and spend 2 minutes walking. If you don't have 2 minutes to walk, then you're too busy for lunch. Have your assistant grab you a sub and stay at the desk.

What people will have to understand is that an urban space is different than a suburban space. If you want to enjoy dense urban neighborhoods (Cherry Street, Brookside, Brady, Blue Dome, East End, etc.) then eventually you have to give up vast surface parking lots. If we installed parking garages at the ends of Cherry Street like some are clamoring for, people would still drive around for 25 minutes looking for a closer spot because the parking garage is 4 blocks away.